Future just exposed the real battle that’s been brewing. Black woman vs the Exoticals

[Shadow King]

then, where does it come from?

I understand it’s always been the brown paper bag test going back for centuries & we pretty much all know that there was a brilliant movie done by Spike Lee in the 80s called school dayz about skin complexion. My point is I never heard black American women use these isms as an excuse till 2010’s

Yes, because you haven't heard it labeled. Not being labeled does not mean it didn't exist.

The fact that Spike Lee did a movie in the 80s after growing up in 60s Brooklyn means it existed during and before his time.

 

[V Skyye]

@High Art

You basically just showed why BM gotta stop simping and accepting any negative talk under the guise of "criticism". Nah it's not criticism - it's hate

It's never factual. There's always double standards. And they rarely respond even when you prove their shyt wrong because they still have their biases against black men they don't want to acknowledge

What @Lemons said was bar for bar the type of shyt I was talking about to @Gloxina . False exagerrated narratives, double standards, blaming it all on black men

Everyday I understand why some BM don't bother engaging on this topic

Colorism isn’t really about Black men and is more about it being a form of racism. There’s plenty of studies showing how darker skinned Black people face more discrimination and have worse economic and social outcomes. In terms of relationships, people will date who they want. But it’s important for brown to darken skinned women to understand that some men will treat them worse just because they’re darker. Many men are very vocal about not liking darker women. Black men also experience this as well. It can also happen in social and employment settings, and you can research boule’ communities to see what it’s looked like historically.

It’s an important topic and important to understand it and know what it looks like for self preservation purposes.

 

[IWasntMadeToPlayTheSon]

Literally spun this up from nothing and got a whole thread of stereotypes poppin, smh

This battle been bubblin for the past 20 years…talk to black women and u would know

 

[kingofnyc]

Nah this isn’t true. Maybe these exact terms weren’t used, but the sentiment has been around forever.

“Good hair” “looser hair” “wet hair girls” (that’s some old school shyt our elders heard). Those were all ways to describe the preferred hair texture.

well, at least you admit that these terms wasn’t used back in the days, but as far as you saying, the sentiments was around back then explain to me where black American women complained & made excuses for those supposedly sentiments

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

This battle been bubblin for the past 20 years…talk to black women and u would know

I am a black woman

 

[Gloxina]

well, at least you admit that these terms wasn’t used back in the days, but as far as you saying, the sentiments was around back then explain to me where black American women complained & made excuses for those supposedly sentiments

Are you kidding?

Spike Lee even made reference to that shyt in School Daze.

One of the biggest issues we’ve had as a culture lol

 

[Turbulent]

Lol can we get back to the jokes?

Just ran the future album back and bro said :

“She Spanish, she can’t call me papi, I make her call me dad!”

Yo, i might check out the album off that one bar, lol

 

[IWasntMadeToPlayTheSon]

I am a black woman

So is Candace Owens…but what that thang look like? I’m sorry baby ion mean no harm..ain’t Dora a Mexican tho? Exoticals the opp

 

[DrBanneker]

I wasn’t stressing the colorism point in my other posts ITT because I essentially agree with you.

What I was saying is there are people who don’t want to acknowledge that there is in fact a “light skin stimulus” in our community and folks in this thread actually admitted that they had their own bias and previously elevated some LS women simply because of their complexion

Honestly, this has always been with us. Even though, having traveled the world I would argue ADOS people have done the best to overcome it.

That being said, what I have currently been somewhat concerned about is that there seems to be a backsliding with this generation. Our grandparents and parents lived in the day of the all light-skin models in Jet and Ebony and then came the 60s and Black is beautiful. I think the 90s was peak equal opportunity for Black women of all shades since you had the Halle Berry to Nia Long spectrum of beauty being showcased. There were some exoticals in the music videos but not completely out of control (and almost no non-Black women).

Now it seems there is a bit of a regression where it isn't necessarily light skinned Black women boosted like before but this Kim K like non-Black chicks and racially ambiguous chicks. I think a lot of this is bc the centers of entertainment---NY and LA team with these type of chicks. You see less of that in say Atlanta, Houston or Charlotte.

 

[Paper Boi]

hip hop is dead and the grave been pissed on and set on fire



i don't give a fukk what either these deadbeat dads beefing about or rapping about


men in their 40s beefing over hoes like middle school boys when they both got kids on the verge of entering middle school

pathetic

 

[Savvir]

So is Candace Owens…but what that thang look like? I’m sorry baby ion mean no harm..ain’t Dora a Mexican tho? Exoticals the opp

i keep reading your posts and wonder are you even black?

This shyt looks like what a white person thinks black people talk like....

is there anybody to vouch for you?

 

[DrBanneker]

You keep implying that rappers have different opinions than the average black man and I’m here to tell you that rap is just thoughts of regular black men that get access to a mic

You were doing good until this line. That is borderline some crap you might hear on the dark corners of Reddit or *****--"rap expresses Black men's true thoughts".

You really think the average Black man endorses even 25% of the self-destructive and crazed shyt his favorite rapper might say? Maybe it is bc I grew up in ATL as opposed to say LA that I can count on one hand the number of Black dudes I have ever known that made it a mission to seek out 'exoticals' or mixed chicks at the expense of other fine Black women that might come along. Serious, I have heard more dudes justify swirling than hype redbones or mixed chicks and talk down regular brown/dark Black women. Then social media opened up at the 5% idiot class that was vocal about this shyt became the voice of Black men apparently.

Now I think this thinking may be endemic in the circles of entertainers but honestly, if you know anything about who makes it and the environment they are in, self-hatred is the rule not the exception. For those I am sure hyping non-Black looking Black women is seen as the standard.

 

[Eternally Jaded]

Are you kidding?

Spike Lee even made reference to that shyt in School Daze.

One of the biggest issues we’ve had as a culture lol

Dudes in here aren't being serious it feels like.

I'm a 30+ year old man and can recall some experiences where brehs outright implied the skin color was the asset.

"Breh you know I can't say no to a redbone/sugar cookie ."

Brehs calling out two darker complected sisters in a pic full of white women without shame.

As if our young girls aren't seeing and internalizing this mess.

Brehs don't understand why the baby hair gel thing is so rampant nowadays?

We let it get this far by ignoring or saying colorism is not real, not a problem, etc.

Either you're disingenuous or you're too stupid/sleep to smell the gas leak.

 

[Gloxina]

Dudes in here aren't being serious it feels like.

I'm a 30+ year old man and can recall some experiences where brehs outright implied the skin color was the asset.

"Breh you know I can't say no to a redbone/sugar cookie ."

Brehs calling out two darker complected sisters in a pic full of white women without shame.

As if our young girls aren't seeing and internalizing this mess.

Brehs don't understand why the baby hair gel thing is so rampant nowadays?

We let it get this far by ignoring or saying colorism is not real, not a problem, etc.

Either you're disingenuous or you're too stupid/sleep to smell the gas leak.

Thank.You.

 

[Gloxina]

Honestly, this has always been with us. Even though, having traveled the world I would argue ADOS people have done the best to overcome it.

That being said, what I have currently been somewhat concerned about is that there seems to be a backsliding with this generation. Our grandparents and parents lived in the day of the all light-skin models in Jet and Ebony and then came the 60s and Black is beautiful. I think the 90s was peak equal opportunity for Black women of all shades since you had the Halle Berry to Nia Long spectrum of beauty being showcased. There were some exoticals in the music videos but not completely out of control (and almost no non-Black women).

Now it seems there is a bit of a regression where it isn't necessarily light skinned Black women boosted like before but this Kim K like non-Black chicks and racially ambiguous chicks. I think a lot of this is bc the centers of entertainment---NY and LA team with these type of chicks. You see less of that in say Atlanta, Houston or Charlotte.