Future just exposed the real battle that’s been brewing. Black woman vs the Exoticals

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Yes, because you haven't heard it labeled. Not being labeled does not mean it didn't exist.

The fact that Spike Lee did a movie in the 80s after growing up in 60s Brooklyn means it existed during and before his time.

Are you kidding?

Spike Lee even made reference to that shyt in School Daze.

One of the biggest issues we’ve had as a culture lol

I believe y’all are misinterpreting what I’m trying to say… I understand those isms may not have been labeled at that particular time although they existed. I’m just saying it wasn’t this major complain about those isms.






for example
back in the early 90s this new group called EnVogue set the industry on fire, and as far as the topic goes all of the young ladies in the group fit every ism that’s been spewed in recent time (light skin, wavy / loose hair, non-west african / euro facial features)
**my point**
I don’t remember any black woman (note: at this time it wasnt many non-ADOS/FBA) complaining or giving excuses that the only reason they are blowing up the industry was because of their phenotype




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all of your isms = colorism, texturism, featurism, etc. etc. isms

Black American women never use these terms back in the day. This rhetoric has been bought to the forefront for about a decade and a half and the only reason in my opinion that I believe it’s blown up is because of the amount of female immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa that came here & got media platforms to pushed this nonsensical narrative

You’re being very dishonest.

The language has become more academic, but all these things have always existed. “Good hair” “bad hair” “yellow bone” “high yellow” “wet hair” “red” have always been common words/terms in our community. We’ve always known where everyone stood on the hierarchy of desirability. Just because our grannies weren’t saying “texturism” doesn’t mean they didn’t know what that meant.

You think people were walking around with dripping S curls for fun? Lol. Everyone wanted their hair to look “loose”. There’s a reason for that.
 

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You’re being very dishonest.

The language has become more academic, but all these things have always existed. “Good hair” “bad hair” “yellow bone” “high yellow” “wet hair” “red” have always been common words/terms in our community. We’ve always known where everyone stood on the hierarchy of desirability. Just because our grannies weren’t saying “texturism” doesn’t mean they didn’t know what that meant.

You think people were walking around with dripping S curls for fun? Lol. Everyone wanted their hair to look “loose”. There’s a reason for that.
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@High Art

You basically just showed why BM gotta stop simping and accepting any negative talk under the guise of "criticism". Nah it's not criticism - it's hate

It's never factual. There's always double standards. And they rarely respond even when you prove their shyt wrong because they still have their biases against black men they don't want to acknowledge :francis:

What @Lemons said was bar for bar the type of shyt I was talking about to @Gloxina . False exagerrated narratives, double standards, blaming it all on black men

Everyday I understand why some BM don't bother engaging on this topic

Some of you can be so sensitive.

Why is it that y’all can openly critique black women and we must take it on the chin, “y’all are hoes” “you pick bad partners” “you’re a bad influence on young girls” “y’all have babies with horrible men, take accountability” etc but the second anyone critiques how black males move as a unit, y’all call it “hate”?

Y’all don’t like critique. Just say that. Everyone is delusional and out to get y’all. You’re all victims in the system, trying your best to uplift black women and children and the big bad white supremacy has hired bad examples of black men to be the representation of your group. Oh and also, every negative statistic of black men is false and pushed by the powers that be. Right?
 

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But they are common. You and people like you are the ones trying to make it seem uncommon. This is actually what I was talking about. The very rappers that you speak of make up a small portion of black music as a whole. Compared to the entirety of black music, there are a smaller number of these more toxic kind of rappers yet you pay more attention to them and many black woman go out of their way to pay more attention and fund more of these rappers than other artists, especially more positive ones. Then you turn around and complain. In reality, you're mad that those toxic rappers aren't catering to you specifically. That's weird.


By that logic, black women are loud angry weave-wearing attitude-having welfare queens and such an image is right to exist, no amount of "not every black woman behaves/is like that" will change the optics of their group. This is why I keep comparing you guys to white supremacists. You utilize the same logic they use, which is "stereotypes exist for a reason" mentality but then cry foul when it used against you.


No, there isn't actually. This is something you've conjured up yourself. The idea of a black man with a black woman would be shocking but it is not. The idea of the militant black man is something that is not based in self-hatred. The idea of the regular degular black male is not one based in self-hatred, yet it seems like people like you continue to push it.


But it's not true, the same way not every black guy is good at basketball. Literal fukking stats show this to be false. Then again, if we subscribe to your idea of stereotypes existing for a reason, the question then becomes, why did he leave? Why do you assume it is self hate? If there is truth in stereotypes and black women have a stereotype of being difficult and having attitude, and so on, maybe he got tired of all of that and the dysfunction that goes with it. Again, this is why stereotypes are dangerous because it almost always blows up in your face.


Because black men have such full control over all media. It has nothing to do with many other groups working against them. Goodness gracious.

So I keep finding that I have to explain the issues of racism and how this can cause problems for black people, and overall history lessons on the black community, especially in regards to black men on this website. I ask anyone to look through my post history where I have had to do this and check the race and gender of the person I am talking to and arguing with in each instance. You will notice a trend that keeps occurring over and over and over and over again and quite frankly, it is fukking telling. Holy shyt.


I'm not mad. It is still a stupid idea and tactic because it is still judging a majority by a minority that is far from how that actual majority actually thinks and acts. It becomes even stupider when taking other black men from other countries into account as well. Lil Wayne is no different than Okwonko in the middle of Nigeria according to you. That's stupid. Lil Wayne, a whole street dude, is the same as a regular square. Again, that's stupid. No amount of juelzing will undo that but again, if we can judge black men by that metric, the metric in which we judge black women is even less flattering. This is what you are trying to do to yourself.


Ah, so if it is a negative narrative on black women, then it is pushed by someone else? It has nothing to do with something you and your group created or did to yourselves? Goodness gracious. It feels like I'm talking to sociopath. Nothing is ever black women's fault. It's all black men's fault. :mjlol:


The funny part is, you and women like you are doing the most to ensure these narratives endure. Pushing this idea that it is right and okay to judge a group by a small number is one that most don't subscribe to and why even the most ardent racists get flustered by this idea and have to talk in circles to even make the idea sort of palatable to people and here you are trying to normalize just so you can attack black men and make it easier for others to do so unfairly.



I want everyone to notice something: Look throughout @Lemons posts in this thread and check how many times she blames either white people, white supremacy, white men, or any other non-black group and then compare that to how many times she blames black men for all of this.

In any case, I called it earlier:

Still haven't seen any of these people comment on white supremacy. Rappers = black men, without exception according to a black woman.

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Some of you can be so sensitive.

Why is it that y’all can openly critique black women and we must take it on the chin, “y’all are hoes” “you pick bad partners” “you’re a bad influence on young girls” “y’all have babies with horrible men, take accountability” etc but the second anyone critiques how black males move as a unit, y’all call it “hate”?

Y’all don’t like critique. Just say that. Everyone is delusional and out to get y’all. You’re all victims in the system, trying your best to uplift black women and children and the big bad white supremacy has hired bad examples of black men to be the representation of your group. Oh and also, every negative statistic of black men is false and pushed by the powers that be. Right?
Maybe because in most of those instances, they are not implying all black woman do that and when someone does, they get reprimanded. We actually hold each other accountable. I'd like to see LSA do that. None of that is comparable to comparing rappers to all black men. Even white people, on average, don't do that. You're literally worse than your average white person at this point. And the second paragraph shows you just wanted to shyt on black men instead of actually talking about this issue but as expected, such is in line with your post history.
 

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Some of you can be so sensitive.

Why is it that y’all can openly critique black women and we must take it on the chin, “y’all are hoes” “you pick bad partners” “you’re a bad influence on young girls” “y’all have babies with horrible men, take accountability” etc but the second anyone critiques how black males move as a unit, y’all call it “hate”?

Y’all don’t like critique. Just say that. Everyone is delusional and out to get y’all. You’re all victims in the system, trying your best to uplift black women and children and the big bad white supremacy has hired bad examples of black men to be the representation of your group. Oh and also, every negative statistic of black men is false and pushed by the powers that be. Right?
You didn't answer a single thing I said. I didn't say and I usually don't ever say those types of stereotypical things. I always push back on people that victim blame bw

You just went straight to generalizing and strawmans

And you exposed yourself with that last paragraph :scust: shyt sounds like something an alt right musk fan boy would say :scust:

All because I didn't jive with you defending stereotypes about BM and colorism? I don't even deny some BM engage in colorism but that's not enough for you I guess. Weirdo
 

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Some of you can be so sensitive.

Why is it that y’all can openly critique black women and we must take it on the chin, “y’all are hoes” “you pick bad partners” “you’re a bad influence on young girls” “y’all have babies with horrible men, take accountability” etc but the second anyone critiques how black males move as a unit, y’all call it “hate”?

Y’all don’t like critique. Just say that. Everyone is delusional and out to get y’all. You’re all victims in the system, trying your best to uplift black women and children and the big bad white supremacy has hired bad examples of black men to be the representation of your group. Oh and also, every negative statistic of black men is false and pushed by the powers that be. Right?


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Maybe because in most of those instances, they are not implying all black woman do that and when someone does, they get reprimanded. We actually hold each other accountable. I'd like to see LSA do that. None of that is comparable to comparing rappers to all black men. Even white people, on average, don't do that. You're literally worse than your average white person at this point. And the second paragraph shows you just wanted to shyt on black men instead of actually talking about this issue but as expected, such is in line with your post history.

But nobody’s doing that.

My first post in this thread is complimenting Future and comparing him to his peers, why you are taking this personally and as meta critique of black men at large is beyond me.

Me? I exclusively fukk with black men. My standards are high for said men because they were raised to be. Every critique I have of black men is because I have high standards and expectations for the males of my community. I don’t like excuses and I don’t like pleas. I like action and results. That’s just how I was raised. If you’re comfortable with the optics of the black male in this climate, that’s on you.
 
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Basically any woman that’s light skin/mixed by nikkas who aren’t used to being around different races of women.
Agree.

Someone who is Black + ???? and you can see the Black but they mixed up enough where you're not 100% what they are.

Exoticals are funny because some brehs will be on that militant no-Pawg shyt but then drool over the lightest of light skints...and not see the irony. Rather have a harem of dark skinned sistas and redhead pawgs. Diversity and shyt
 
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