Funk Started In Ohio

[K.O.N.Y]

It didn't originate down the river. It originated in Mali.

A lot of the modern blues have roots in Mississippi by the slaves that were sold down river into Mississippi and Louisiana from plantations in North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky took them with them into that region. People like Elizabeth Cotton played the blues and she was from North Carolina. Arnold Schultz was from Kentucky. Rufus Tee Tot Payne was from Alabama.

Fwiw, the banjo was being played on plantations in Virginia as far back as the days of Thomas Jefferson. Black musicians switched to the guitar after the minstrel shows made a mockery out of playing the banjo.

the earliest accounts of blues all point to the delta breh
Roots-deep south music birthed the blues. As a fully realized music genre

 

[K.O.N.Y]

also @IllmaticDelta thoughts ?

 

[Samori Toure]

the earliest accounts of blues all point to the delta breh
Roots-deep south music birthed the blues. As a fully realized music genre

Then how do you explain Black people in other regions playing the Blues? How do you explain Black people in other regions teaching the Blues to Appalachian White people who turned around and made Country, Blue Grass and Folk music?

So they clearly came to this Country with knowledge of the Blues and playing the Blues.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Then how do you explain Black people in other regions playing the Blues? How do you explain Black people in other regions teaching the Blues to Appalachian White people who turned around and made Country, Blue Grass and Folk music?

So they clearly came to this Country with knowledge of the Blues and playing the Blues.

All of the old 1st tier blues artist came straight from the delta. The music went upwards and lateral to other deep south states. Not the other way around

 

[Samori Toure]

All of the old 1st tier blues artist came straight from the delta. The music went upwards and lateral to other deep south states. Not the other way around

What does that even mean? I think that you are talking about the advent of modern Blues with guys like Muddy Waters, Elmore James, Howling Wolf and all of those guys, but there are alos Blues that are older than that. Seriously you should start listening to the old stuff, because there are guys like Robert Johnson and Son House who are from Mississippi, but there were other guys like Lightening Hopkins and Blind Willie Johnson who were from Texas. Lead Belly was from Louisiana. Blind Willie McTell was from Georgia. Even a lot of modern Blues guys are not from Mississippi, because Ray Charles was from Georgia.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

What does that even mean? I think that you are talking about the advent of modern Blues with guys like Muddy Waters, Elmore James, Howling Wolf and all of those guys, but there are alos Blues that are older than that. Seriously you should start listening to the old stuff, because there are guys like Robert Johnson and Son House who are from Mississippi, but there were other guys like Lightening Hopkins and Blind Willie Johnson who were from Texas. Lead Belly was from Louisiana. Blind Willie McTell was from Georgia. Even a lot of modern Blues guys are not from Mississippi, because Ray Charles was from Georgia.

There may have been some elements lingering in other states. But blues as a genre is straight Mississippi deep southern music. These other regions will go on to even have their distinct version of the genre. But the oldest is delta blues. Some of the artist u mentioned werent even born when the blues first started

 

[Samori Toure]

There may have been some elements lingering in other states. But blues as a genre is straight Mississippi deep southern music. These other regions will go on to even have their distinct version of the genre. But the oldest is delta blues. Some of the artist u mentioned werent even born when the blues first started

None of the artist that either of us mentioned were born when the Blues first started, because the Blues are out of the Sahel in Mali West Africa. Mississippi has only been peopled for a couple hundred years. The Blues have been played in the South since the 1700s.

 

[Ake1725]

You’re incorrect as well... I see I’m discussing music with people who really don’t know music... funk music has a distinctive chord structure and rhythm that ORIGINATED in NEW ORLEANS Wayyyyyy before there was a James Brown, George Clinton, or Bootsy Collins... those three and more EVOLVED the sound, they didn’t create it...

And I take back my previous post... Jazz did originate in New Orleans.

You talking about the meters?

 

[Ake1725]

New Orleans definitely.

Ohio popularized it and made it mainstream but funk was created in Louisiana.

I bet 99% of people would not recognize these tunes.

-sissy strut song, from the New Orleans funk band the Meters in 1969.


again from the same band, the Meters, in 1969.




The Meters - Wikipedia




The Meters are an American funk band formed in 1965 by Zigaboo Modeliste (drums), George Porter Jr. (bass), Leo Nocentelli (guitar), and Art Neville (keyboards) in New Orleans, Louisiana. The band performed and recorded their own music from the late 1960s until 1977 and played an influential role as backing musicians for other artists, including Lee Dorsey, Robert Palmer, Dr. John, and Allen Toussaint. Their original songs "Cissy Strut" and "Look-Ka Py Py" are considered funk classics.[1]

While they rarely enjoyed significant mainstream success, they are considered originators of funkalong with artists like James Brown, and their work is influential on many other bands, both their contemporaries and modern musicians.[2][3] Their sound is defined by a combination of tight melodic grooves and highly syncopated New Orleans "second line" rhythms under highly charged guitar and keyboard riffing.[4][5] The band has been nominated four times for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, most recently in 2017.[6] In 2018 the band was presented the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award.[7]

James Brown's Cold Sweat came out in 1967 breh. Not saying your wrong but the song examples don't help your argument.

 

[Cat piss martini]

James brown created funk and
passed it down to George Clinton.
George took that shyt went nuclear.
#EverythingIsOnTheOne

 

[im_sleep]

None of the artist that either of us mentioned were born when the Blues first started, because the Blues are out of the Sahel in Mali West Africa. Mississippi has only been peopled for a couple hundred years. The Blues have been played in the South since the 1700s.

This right here...

There’s a clear link between the Blues and the music of the Sahel. The Delta is a cultural powerhouse no doubt but it’s one of the younger regions, very few came off the boat from Africa straight into the Delta.

All the elements came together like no other in the Delta, but it’s not the root. It’s weird to me how even with it’s known connection to Africa, the timeline on when the Blues began gets put in the late 1800’s - early 1900’s, it HAS to be older than that.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

funk/funkyness started in the south and was originally a blues and jazz and even gospel feel-concept before the genre pioneered by James Brown was born ....ohio was a big part of the growth of funk after it left the south though

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Yea that bama @K.Dot been saying wild shyt. lol

Where are you from?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Then how do you explain Black people in other regions playing the Blues? How do you explain Black people in other regions teaching the Blues to Appalachian White people who turned around and made Country, Blue Grass and Folk music?

So they clearly came to this Country with knowledge of the Blues and playing the Blues.

blues musicians/songsters traveled all over spreading songs/guitar styles

 

[Luke Cage]

A long with Dayton Rims and braids

According to @K.Dot


Coli is this true?

Yes