Funk Started In Ohio

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:comeon: You’re incorrect as well... I see I’m discussing music with people who really don’t know music... funk music has a distinctive chord structure and rhythm that ORIGINATED in NEW ORLEANS Wayyyyyy before there was a James Brown, George Clinton, or Bootsy Collins... those three and more EVOLVED the sound, they didn’t create it...

And I take back my previous post... Jazz did originate in New Orleans.

Well at least you admit that you were wrong about something. I am pretty sure that you are wrong about funk too, but it is not worth arguing about.
 

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It's different eras and sounds to Funk and the Ohio era bands didn't create it. That's like late 70s and 80s shyt. It's a thin line between Soul and Funk anyway. It branched off from Soul but you prolly had songs from a few genres that had Funk elements before it became a genre.

Braids been around since we was in Africa nikka:comeon:
:comeon: You’re incorrect as well... I see I’m discussing music with people who really don’t know music... funk music has a distinctive chord structure and rhythm that ORIGINATED in NEW ORLEANS Wayyyyyy before there was a James Brown, George Clinton, or Bootsy Collins... those three and more EVOLVED the sound, they didn’t create it...

And I take back my previous post... Jazz did originate in New Orleans.
Post some examples of New Orleans Funk before 65
 

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As far as I know, playing on the “one” came out of New Orleans



For comparison...



Professor Longhair’s record is from 1949...
 
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James Brown is the Godfather of funk..

I mean just listen to his music, he emphasized starting on the downbeat..

And from what I read alot of the rhythms they were doing in New Orleans r&b contributed alot, to funk..

I like listening to old blues like the stuff played by Lead Belly, Robert Johnson, Blind Willie Johnson, John Hurt, Elizabeth Cotton etc.
Just listening to that music can give a person a pretty good appreciation for history. Just listening to the old stuff it is clear that the slaves that came to the USA were basically playing a country version of the blues and they also sang gospel. Well country music, folk music and blue grass seem to be offshoots of those country blues, which was originally played on banjos that the Africans brought to the USA. When the slaves were sold down river from the Upper Southern States in the USA to New Orleans they took the blues with them, which became jazz after the slaves were introduced to French brass horn instruments.

Country Blues then became harder edged which ushered in the electric Blues, which eventually became Rock and Roll and Soul music. Soul music split into three different music: Funk, Disco and R&B. The point is that the music just keeps splitting, but it all stems from the Blues. I can tell that you have an appreciation for music.
 

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I would say New Orleans probably.....

JB created as a musical genre though, but New Orleans has a rich history of blending and creating music.

If you know about Congo Square, you'd guess New Orleans too
 

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I like listening to old blues like the stuff played by Lead Belly, Robert Johnson, Blind Willie Johnson, John Hurt, Elizabeth Cotton etc.
Just listening to that music can give a person a pretty good appreciation for history. Just listening to the old stuff it is clear that the slaves that came to the USA were basically playing a country version of the blues and they also sang gospel. Well country music, folk music and blue grass seem to be offshoots of those country blues, which was originally played on banjos that the Africans brought to the USA. When the slaves were sold down river from the Upper Southern States in the USA to New Orleans they took the blues with them, which became jazz after the slaves were introduced to French brass horn instruments.

Country Blues then became harder edged which ushered in the electric Blues, which eventually became Rock and Roll and Soul music. Soul music split into three different music: Funk, Disco and R&B. The point is that the music just keeps splitting, but it all stems from the Blues. I can tell that you have an appreciation for music.

But the Blues started in the delta. The music already originated "down the river"
 

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According to one source, "Earl Palmer (A New Orleans born Drummer; circa 1950s) was the first to use the word 'funky' to explain to other musicians that their music should be made more "syncopated" and "danceable." The style later evolved into a rather hard-driving, insistent rhythm, implying a more carnal quality. This early form of "funk" music set the pattern for later musicians."The music was identified as slow, sexy, loose, riff-oriented and danceable."

I'm going with New Orleans :yeshrug:
 

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But the Blues started in the delta. The music already originated "down the river"

It didn't originate down the river. It originated in Mali.

A lot of the modern blues have roots in Mississippi by the slaves that were sold down river into Mississippi and Louisiana from plantations in North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky took them with them into that region. People like Elizabeth Cotton played the blues and she was from North Carolina. Arnold Schultz was from Kentucky. Rufus Tee Tot Payne was from Alabama.

Fwiw, the banjo was being played on plantations in Virginia as far back as the days of Thomas Jefferson. Black musicians switched to the guitar after the minstrel shows made a mockery out of playing the banjo.
 
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New Orleans definitely.

Ohio popularized it and made it mainstream but funk was created in Louisiana.

I bet 99% of people would not recognize these tunes.

-sissy strut song, from the New Orleans funk band the Meters in 1969.


again from the same band, the Meters, in 1969.




The Meters - Wikipedia




The Meters are an American funk band formed in 1965 by Zigaboo Modeliste (drums), George Porter Jr. (bass), Leo Nocentelli (guitar), and Art Neville (keyboards) in New Orleans, Louisiana. The band performed and recorded their own music from the late 1960s until 1977 and played an influential role as backing musicians for other artists, including Lee Dorsey, Robert Palmer, Dr. John, and Allen Toussaint. Their original songs "Cissy Strut" and "Look-Ka Py Py" are considered funk classics.[1]

While they rarely enjoyed significant mainstream success, they are considered originators of funkalong with artists like James Brown, and their work is influential on many other bands, both their contemporaries and modern musicians.[2][3] Their sound is defined by a combination of tight melodic grooves and highly syncopated New Orleans "second line" rhythms under highly charged guitar and keyboard riffing.[4][5] The band has been nominated four times for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, most recently in 2017.[6] In 2018 the band was presented the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award.[7]
 
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