fukkking Cam Newton
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This is what I always say, the white QB has to develop all the other talents to win on the lower levels, while some of the black QB's (Vick, Young, Newton etc) are so gifted that their athleticism allows them to dominate on the lower levels of HS/College.
yseJ
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its 99% coaches problem tho.
no one wants to develop a qbs passing skills which are raw and might take trial and error, if they can win titles/games with athleticism NOW. I wrote a lot of posts on this. this is fundamental flaw in developing black qb's. coaches want success, not preparation of a qb for the next level.
so it becomes ironic, to develop a good black passing qb he has to be not very athletic...
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Yep I think I got into a argument with somebody on hamster why White QB's will always dominate the position. This is back when dudes got hype about Cam started and saying we eventually take over the QB position. They have a developmental advantage from the very beginning. Nobody gonna bother to teach young Darius proper throwing mechanics when he shytting on all his competition already. But young Zachary had a QB coach since he was 14 years old.
I think it comes down to convenience, most these coaches on these lower levels don't even know how to coach the QB up, so they tell em just do you.
And it only makes complete sense for coaches to just go for success the kids will be only be with them at a max of 4 years.
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I didn't say accuracy was all physical, just that physical talent is incorporated into Player A being more accurate than Player B.
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makes no sense tho...
What physical advantage does Peyton Manning in his current state have over let's say...Mark Sanchez? I couldn't name a single one, yet he is a 100x times more accurate
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Physicality isn't only about how fast you are. It's about the ability to generate arm speed. It's about arm strength. It's about accuracy. Combine this and more and the better a QB applies his talent will give him an advantage over the next guy who isn't as talented.
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If accuracy is skill because you can seemingly get better at it the more you practice (lol) then so is speed. You can train to become faster... how is these two any different?
yseJ
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I think it depends. its tough to see on lower levels who is good and whos not in terms of coaching because the results that are yielded arent consistent or obvious. result of coaching becomes evident only after a few years...
yseJ
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a man who runs a 4.9 40 will never run a 4.2 forty no matter how hard he practices his runs
a bad free throw shooter can get better through practice
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a man who runs a 4.9 40 will never run a 4.2 forty no matter how hard he practices his runs
a bad free throw shooter can get better through practice
And a man who isn't accurate at all will not become accurate on an elite level, now matter how hard he practices
He will get closer to elite accuracy than a person who isn't naturally fast or athletic will ever get to elite speed/athleticism. You work hard enough for long enough and you will be accurate. There is no amount of work that can make you athletic. Everybody who makes it to the pros in any sport is in the top 10% athleticially. What separates people is freakish athleticism and/or diligent work ethic. The best of the best obviously combine the two.
Freakish athletes are less likely to put in the work or be forced to put in the work early on thus leaving them with a weaker foundation of fundamentals and skills then their less gifted counterparts coming up. Therefore the less gifted cats are more likely to have put more work in over years and thusly have a head start that very likely can't be made up. Mike Vick has worked his ass off in Philly. The reason he isn't as accurate as Rodgers, Brady, Manning isn't because he can't be it's because they have been working their asses off for 15, 20, 25 years whereas he really just started working like that when it got to Philly. It's human nature to not work as hard when you are gifted and to work harder when you arent' as gifted.