fukkking Cam Newton

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Rodgers is easily the most gifted QB in the league.
gifted in general, yes
physically, lol no. he isnt close to having the best arm strength

Cam has all the abilities of a pure pocket passer. Arm strength is crucial with the speed of the game these days. Fitting passes into tight pockets against the upper echelon defenses is a key element on how you win games in the playoffs.
:mindblown: never heard so much drivel in my life. fitting passes in tight pockets require more accuracy than arm strength. pure pocket passing depends on pocket presence, reading defenses and having great footwork and peripheral vision, knowing when the pocket collapses, when to throw the ball away, etc. peyton is still a great pocket passer with an average ass arm nowadays because of his accuracy, feel for the pocket, having great feel for timing and opposite defenses

and in the last 5 year or so Ive seen someone throwing thread the needle passes in tight pockets against upper echelon defenses in playoffs...was rodgers in '10 :heh:
everything else is just your imagination and love for big arm qbs talking.

cam hasnt shown that he can be an elite pure pocket passer at all. hes fukking lost in the pocket.

They're also forcing him to pass the ball....
:mindblown:
he's a qb isnt he ?
 

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Better runner I guess. Passer, accuracy, durability....not even close.

:wtf: Do you know what physical talent is?

Accuracy is a skill, so is passing, those things an be learned. Vick is faster than Rodgers, can throw just as far (if not further), and is more agile. Rodgers is athletic for a QB but he is not as physically talented as Cam or RG3. Obviously he is the better Quarterback, arguably the best in the league, but this debate is ridiculous :snoop:
 

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gifted in general, yes
physically, lol no. he isnt close to having the best arm strength


:mindblown: never heard so much drivel in my life. fitting passes in tight pockets require more accuracy than arm strength. pure pocket passing depends on pocket presence, reading defenses and having great footwork and peripheral vision, knowing when the pocket collapses, when to throw the ball away, etc. peyton is still a great pocket passer with an average ass arm nowadays because of his accuracy, feel for the pocket, having great feel for timing and opposite defenses

and in the last 5 year or so Ive seen someone throwing thread the needle passes in tight pockets against upper echelon defenses in playoffs...was rodgers in '10 :heh:
everything else is just your imagination and love for big arm qbs talking.

cam hasnt shown that he can be an elite pure pocket passer at all. hes fukking lost in the pocket.


:mindblown:
he's a qb isnt he ?

Cam has the attributes you cant teach....he's not the lost cause youd think the media would have you believe. The things youre speaking on are mental and I agree he's totally out of whack in that regard. I dont know why you hate arm strength but its extremely important.

Rodgers is up there for arm strength....the td pass against the Rams against the grain was one of the crazier passes ive seen
 

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Sophmore slump. But last season was arguably the worst in the NFL history in terms of pass defense so it puts into question his rookie numbers.
 

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Better runner I guess. Passer, accuracy, durability....not even close.
:mindblown:
'passer' and 'accuracy' aren't PHYSICAL attributes. physical attributes is how far you can throw the ball and how fast you can run, cut, etc. throwing on the run maybe. 'accuracy' is a skill attribute
 

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:mindblown:
'passer' and 'accuracy' aren't PHYSICAL attributes. physical attributes is how far you can throw the ball and how fast you can run, cut, etc. throwing on the run maybe. 'accuracy' is a skill attribute

Exactly, dude really said Rodgers was on a whole other level than Michael Vick in terms of physical talent :wtf:
 

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Exactly, dude really said Rodgers was on a whole other level than Michael Vick in terms of physical talent :wtf:

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he is
 

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Have you seen Michael Vick's highlight reel? Vick can make any throw Rodgers can and we're not even gonna discuss the speed difference. Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL but Vick is the best athlete that has ever played the Quarterback position unless Cam Newton proves otherwise
 

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Have you seen Michael Vick's highlight reel? Vick can make any throw Rodgers can and we're not even gonna discuss the speed difference. Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL but Vick is the best athlete that has ever played the Quarterback position unless Cam Newton proves otherwise

Vick cant make that throw going to his right
 

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Have you seen Michael Vick's highlight reel? Vick can make any throw Rodgers can and we're not even gonna discuss the speed difference. Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL but Vick is the best athlete that has ever played the Quarterback position unless Cam Newton proves otherwise

:whoa:
 

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besides being able to throw better on the run than anyone since montana, rodgers' physical tools arent the best in any way. shyt, derek anderson and jamarcus russell had far better armstrength.
 

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Not even going to start with Rodgers vs. Vick. Can't believe some people are still stuck in 2010.
 
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