Frederick Douglass Isn't Black

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I went in for the "Black family buys black for a year" thread and eventually felt like I was talking to myself.
I won't even bother anymore. Especially when people don't acknowledge the scope in which politics(not enough of our people are active in local politics)
covers our social condition and economic standing.

Cop kills kid. Most people peacefully protest, black, white, and everything in between. Thats all well and good, but it only goes so far.
A nut contingent thinks destroying your neighborhood is ok because "I don't own anything there." When you are tired from the march, where do you lay?
When your kids must continue school, where do they go? When you haven't had food, where do you shop? Now that your neighborhood is in shambles,
who wants to live there? Who trusts their neighbors anymore after seeing what they have done? Fools assume that turning up will make a huge difference,
when 400+ years says otherwise. They have patience, money, and most importantly, perseverance, and suckas think they can reinvent the wheel.

We literally have tons more tools available to us now than we did 50 years ago, 30 years ago, even 10. Nobody on this planet you can't reach, and oppressors
can't hide atrocities. We can vote locally, raise hell, we KNOW where the local decision makers live, this shyt is online in a 2 minute google search.

THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE KEY TO THE CHAINS! But no, we gonna get mad, and we gonna march or riot, when an afternoon at a computer can
get you like-minded people who can say "This is the guy who slept on us, and we want him gone." Community spirit matters. Voting matters. Educating yourself
on law (mostly local, but federal as well) matters. Willful ignorance and getting upset at the latest headline, whining "They don't give a fukk about us" and not putting
people up on game to make your community work for you seems to be the prevailing thought. Most importantly, people not recognizing while group economics is
an amazing thing, it will ONLY be the solution community to community, which means while you may see your neighborhood come ahead, other neighborhoods face
different circumstances and they may not care. Pride in ourselves is literally the smallest percentage of "Things to do to bring Blacks to prominence."
Without the knowledge, and not smart-dumb revisionist black history, nothing well ever change, save for the things to complain about.

I'm not gonna lie breh, you be writing some long ass posts

Let me have my afternoon glass of henny, regroup, and try to tackle this titangraph

 

[Skooby]

75% and up.

if you want to claim mixed race thats fine, but some may find it alittle absurd like those dumb broads that look like Lupita but claim to be part cherokee.

the point is, a biracial person is not a single race, its clearly a person with dual racial identity.

My niece and father both consider themselves Black/African-American. My dads parents were both bi-racial I guess. But he didn't have a white parent.

 

[At30wecashout]

I'm not gonna lie breh, you be writing some long ass posts

Let me have my afternoon glass of henny, regroup, and try to tackle this titangraph

Well shyt, I break it down. The "c00n/black only" etc etc etc doesn't require much effort. Covering shyt in depth does, but everybody wants
bullet points and vitriol.

 

[charmander]

I think a lot of you over complicate the issue.

If you're more than 50% black....then obviously that is what the majority of your genetics are. It's not a question of being "full blooded", but you nikkas are trying to steer away from the obvious fallacy that someone who is 1/10th black and 9/10ths white is the same as the reverse.

the complication of the issue is what I was gettin at

everyone seems to have their own criteria, but at the end of the day what does it accomplish? especially when no one can agree on what that criteria is?

this mixed narrative on AAs lineage/heritage is grossly exaggerated and i would much appreciate it if this myth would cease being repeated everytime these type ol discussions pop up..outside of a minority of mongrels whom exist throughout all the ethnic groups AAs one of the purest creeds of blacks(ethnic groups as a whole really) outside of Africa.

as far as the OP..it was theorized that Fred Douglas daddy was possibly white but never never verified as fact...personally he don't look like a halfbreed to me but since he was an OG newblack the halfcacs can have him

I was gonna answer this seriously until I noticed your post devolve into some borderline st0rmfr0nt shyt

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Well shyt, I break it down. The "c00n/black only" etc etc etc doesn't require much effort. Covering shyt in depth does, but everybody wants
bullet points and vitriol.

Breh, you can make your point without writing a dissertation , it's called a summary

 

[Tommy Knocks]

My niece and father both consider themselves Black/African-American. My dads parents were both bi-racial I guess. But he didn't have a white parent.

That would make him mixed. mixed + black = black w/admixture. obv we would just consider that black tho.

look, my dad is biracial, mom is african. im black, sometimes people mention I have unusual features, I might mention I have a white grandma, then get a 'ah now it makes sense" but, thats when asked. Otherwise Im just black. My dad however, is biracial. His mom is white, dude got half her genes rocking cac eyes and a cac nose, he cant lie to himself.

 

[IGSaint12]

Interesting assessment....but what progress can black america when the elite consist mostly of biracials and liflightskinned blacks.

South americans segregate the biracials from the dark blacks...because thry have white privilege Accessed through white patriarchal lineage But even if they were included in the black group...what does it change?

The elite does not consist of mostly biracials and light skinned. I disagree with that.

 

[At30wecashout]

Breh, you can make your point without writing a dissertation , it's called a summary

Black (regional) economics
political strongholds
downplay the importance of national politics to what goes on in our communities
Take a business-minded approach to political moves (locally)
Find out how global economics works, stop thinking we can escape that.

There are the bullet points, and they say nothing without context. If you ask me something, I go in depth, cause I actually study this.
I can opt to show preferential treatment for fukkery and add nothing, if that is the case, cause a lack of attention to detail pretty much sums the black communities
problem in a fat nutshell.

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

the complication of the issue is what I was gettin at

everyone seems to have their own criteria, but at the end of the day what does it accomplish? especially when no one can agree on what that criteria is?



I was gonna answer this seriously until I noticed your post devolve into some borderline st0rmfr0nt shyt

yeah cause pushing the myth that AAs are special blacks different from the true negros cause of our long forgotten slave rape blood aint propaganda that you can find on st0rmfr0nt and other white nationalist forums

it's obvious the clowns whom to exaggerate AA mixture via slave rape every chance they get cacs or nikkas with whom secerely want to be white

 

[Knicksman20]

that would be me.

and yes, FD is a biracial man who helped the cause, how is this difficult to comprehend?

Because I see both sides of the argument with valid points.

 

[charmander]

yeah cause pushing the myth that AAs are special blacks different from the true negros cause of our long forgotten slave rape blood aint propaganda that you can find on st0rmfr0nt and other white nationalist forums

no doubt, if there's one thing white nationalists and racist cacs consider African Americans, it's special

 

[Goat poster]

Interesting assessment....but what progress can black america when the elite consist mostly of biracials and liflightskinned blacks.

South americans segregate the biracials from the dark blacks...because thry have white privilege Accessed through white patriarchal lineage But even if they were included in the black group...what does it change?

Have you ever heard of Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Larry Elder, ect...
There are plenty of uppity, boot licking, rich dark skinned black men.

Furthermore between the 2 richest black people in America: Oprah and Bob Johnson, Neither is light skinned.( not saying either one of them is a c00n)

"c00ns" come in all diferent shades breh. And it's many mixed and light skinned blacks that ride WAY HARDER than some "real" blacks

Yall's rhetoric is so divisive and destructive.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I went in for the "Black family buys black for a year" thread and eventually felt like I was talking to myself.
I won't even bother anymore. Especially when people don't acknowledge the scope in which politics(not enough of our people are active in local politics)
covers our social condition and economic standing.

It's the internet breh, not everyone is going to hold your view points in the same regard as you hold your own. I believe in black separation and ultimately repatriation back to Africa, but I know I'm in the vast minority. More importantly the internet isn't the place to have any serious conversation. It's best to do that in person with people you actually know.

Cop kills kid. Most people peacefully protest, black, white, and everything in between. Thats all well and good, but it only goes so far.
A nut contingent thinks destroying your neighborhood is ok because "I don't own anything there." When you are tired from the march, where do you lay?
When your kids must continue school, where do they go? When you haven't had food, where do you shop? Now that your neighborhood is in shambles,
who wants to live there? Who trusts their neighbors anymore after seeing what they have done? Fools assume that turning up will make a huge difference,
when 400+ years says otherwise. They have patience, money, and most importantly, perseverance, and suckas think they can reinvent the wheel.

Personally I think violence is sometimes a solution. If the QT didn't get burned down after Mike Brown was shot, would it have gotten the worldwide coverage it did? Maybe, but them "turning up" shined an international spotlight on the situation. Beside, most the people in Ferguson protesting were extremely peaceful. It was only a select few (with some white anarchists sprinkled in) who got violent.

We literally have tons more tools available to us now than we did 50 years ago, 30 years ago, even 10. Nobody on this planet you can't reach, and oppressors
can't hide atrocities. We can vote locally, raise hell, we KNOW where the local decision makers live, this shyt is online in a 2 minute google search.

Breh, oppressors don't have to hide their atrocities. We all know the history of white aggression in this country, it's extremely well documented. It hasn't made a single non black person step in and offer serious help (at least not publicly).

THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE KEY TO THE CHAINS! But no, we gonna get mad, and we gonna march or riot, when an afternoon at a computer can
get you like-minded people who can say "This is the guy who slept on us, and we want him gone." Community spirit matters. Voting matters. Educating yourself
on law (mostly local, but federal as well) matters. Willful ignorance and getting upset at the latest headline, whining "They don't give a fukk about us" and not putting
people up on game to make your community work for you seems to be the prevailing thought.

All of what you said is true, but here's the problem: black people aren't organized. It's one of the reasons why it's difficult for us to get anything done. Because in the middle of you trying to get something done, someone will bring up religion, colorism, feminism, captalism, and a bunch of other useless shyt to get the focus off of the main point of the group meeting together. Every single group I've been involved in, I've personally have had to diffuse shouting matches because dudes want to run off on tangents about why we don't have any women present or why aren't starting the meeting off in prayer.

Most importantly, people not recognizing while group economics is
an amazing thing, it will ONLY be the solution community to community, which means while you may see your neighborhood come ahead, other neighborhoods face
different circumstances and they may not care. Pride in ourselves is literally the smallest percentage of "Things to do to bring Blacks to prominence."
Without the knowledge, and not smart-dumb revisionist black history, nothing well ever change, save for the things to complain about.

Group economics isn't the solution to the problem. It's part of the solution. It's why people who subscribe to black nationalism included politics and education in the equation. Other people include media representation. Other include purchasing land to create a separate physical community for black people. And that's part of why the issue is difficult to tackle. Ask 15 different people what the answer is and you'll get 15 different answers......and unfortunately they're probably all right. The problem is all encompassing. It's police brutality, feminisim, single parent homes, lack of businesses, lack of focus on education the prison industrial complex, healthcare, finance, not enough blacks in stem, hip-hop, and on and on you can go.

In my opinion, what black people who want to help should do is focus on the areas they're the most passionate about. If you think education is most important, find people where you live who are like minded, and attempt to come up with a program to address the issues you see. Make a website/social media page to market it, and work your ass off on building up and getting the word out. The same goes for addressing single parent homes, feminism, lack of entrepreneurs, lack of blacks in college, lack of family values, us not working in the local political arena, etc.

Me personally, I'm focusing on the economic aspect of it. I got some thing in place that I'm working on, and hopefully it will get big enough to allow black people to get laser focused on entrepreneurship.

But all the shyt I typed is irrelevant for one simple fukking reason, you're not going to get shyt done online. It won't happen. I've had so many nikkas hit me on the inbox saying yo I want to join the organization you're in. I give them my phone number, my email, my government name, as well as the time and location of our next meeting. Not a single person has shown up. I follow up next week and remind of the next meeting....and again, nobody shows up.

The internet is useful for disseminating information, but on a site like the coli that's 99.9999% fukkery, you're never gonna get a serious dialoge. Which is why I troll so much on here. I've had people accuse me of being a cac, a c00n, a simp.....even got called a bedwench once

Find people where you live and work with them. Let the coli be the fukkery it's always been.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Black (regional) economics
political strongholds
downplay the importance of national politics to what goes on in our communities
Take a business-minded approach to political moves (locally)
Find out how global economics works, stop thinking we can escape that.

There are the bullet points, and they say nothing without context. If you ask me something, I go in depth, cause I actually study this.
I can opt to show preferential treatment for fukkery and add nothing, if that is the case, cause a lack of attention to detail pretty much sums the black communities
problem in a fat nutshell.

Breh...I swear you have the most awkward writing style

I usually have to read your posts multiple times to get the gist of what you're trying to say

 

[Will Ross]

I think @Ghost Utmost and @CinnaSlim did the best job at explaining the point i was about to make.

In most countries, mulattoes are mulattoes, period. Simple as that. If you are born to a white father and black mother you are not BLACK nor WHITE. Think i had addressed it in the other thread in this post http://www.thecoli.com/posts/11996396/

Those countries had legit rules dividing mixed from full black though . That is not the history in the usa.