Frederick Douglass Isn't Black

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Me, my niece and my father took an ancestry test (23andMe). She is as light as the girl in the picture with the same hair texture. My father looks just like Judge Joe Brown.
According to our results...my niece is 44% West African. My dad is 65% and I'm 82%.
Let me ask you all...when is black...black?
75% and up.

if you want to claim mixed race thats fine, but some may find it alittle absurd like those dumb broads that look like Lupita but claim to be part cherokee.

the point is, a biracial person is not a single race, its clearly a person with dual racial identity.
 

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seriously I think we are the only stupid fukking race that thinks having a child with another race still constitutes the child as black. so the genes of the other parent simply vanish? the child has 2 fukking races, its not fukking Harvard trig. ffs.

even here in china, who have a pretty premature outlook on race as it is a homogeneous country, view a halfer as a biracial child, not a chinese. its such an easy concept that even these people get it. If you have a child with a chinese person, that child is not chinese, its a chinese hybrid (loose translation). in other words, the child is chinese (nationality), speaks chinese, eats chinese, everything is chinese, even holds a chinese passport, but its not fully hans physically, only culturally. this will be recognized. ALWAYS.

So if that baby has a baby with a Chinese. Then what? How many generations until the baby is considered Chinese?
 

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The fact that you cant concieve:
1. race is a social construct
2. according to the social construction of race in the United States, FD was a black man, considered a black man, and never benefitted/was considered/ or defined himself as a person of the white race
3. him having non-African ancestry does not negate the fact that was a black man. not what you term bi-racial.
1. if thats the case there wouldnt be a census, clearly we identify ourselves by regional ethnicity.
2. cacs can try and label us but we are free, we can label ourselves now.
3. actually I misspoke, his mother was biracial, he was a black.
 

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So if that baby has a baby with a Chinese. Then what? How many generations until the baby is considered Chinese?
typically the biracial child....if say marries a chinese, the child will be deemed mixed. but from what I can tell, everything after that is usually just 'chinese'. they may say they have some admixture, like some say they have some admixture of russian, japanese, etc from past wars, but they 100% claim chinese. biracials however. never.
 

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75% and up.

if you want to claim mixed race thats fine, but some may find it alittle absurd like those dumb broads that look like Lupita but claim to be part cherokee.

the point is, a biracial person is not a single race, its clearly a person with dual racial identity.
ok, so a person cant be dark, dark, brown and mixed with native American? So people should deny their heritage just because they dont pass your eye test?
 

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:comeon: At all the trolls arguing back and forth about how black or biracial someone is,and ALL of them are being controlled,dominated and subjugated by WHITE PEOPLE
 

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ok, so a person cant be dark, dark, brown and mixed with native American? So people should deny their heritage just because they dont pass your eye test?
not at all. clearly most folks are mixed. natives run through a lot of bloods, for example brad pitt. is he a white man or a mixed man? obv we see him as a white man.

but to state a biracial person is black is simply fukking ridiculous. how does it make any logical sense to deny the other parents identity? :what:
 

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1. if thats the case there wouldnt be a census, clearly we identify ourselves by regional ethnicity.
2. cacs can try and label us but we are free, we can label ourselves now.
3. actually I misspoke, his mother was biracial, he was a black.
fool, the census started so that they could count voters in each state. 3/5 compromise, all that shyt. the census started in part so that they figure out how much slaves counted in total state populations (important for elections)
 

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fool, the census started so that they could count voters in each state. 3/5 compromise, all that shyt. the census started in part so that they figure out how much slaves counted in total state populations (important for elections)
we dont currently use the census for that, so I dont know how thats even relevant to the discussion.

are you a black man, yes or no? race is a social construct, of course it is, that is why white and black = biracial.
 

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not at all. clearly most folks are mixed. natives run through a lot of bloods, for example brad pitt. is he a white man or a mixed man? obv we see him as a white man.

but to state a biracial person is black is simply fukking ridiculous. how does it make any logical sense to deny the other parents identity? :what:
so on one hand, you want FD to be biracial, but if a person that looks like Lupita has Cherokee ancestry, she should deny that because it is not observable?

Is it oochie wally or one mic? ::ld:
 

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Something that is being overlooked: race is not science. Arabs don't have a category at all in America (census) and have been counted as white so far.

Being "Black" is a social construct that mostly has to do with African ancestry but I have seen white racists go in for crooks in a photo being "niqqers" even though they coulda been anything from Polynesian to Native American just from the look of them.

If we were getting technical there would be 371 categories not 4 or 5. To break race down to a handful of categories you have to do alot of generalizing
 
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