Frederick Douglass Isn't Black

[marcuz]

According to the one drop rule the kid is black. But I don't see him as black

so to clarify. you're going to throw away your own better judgement and belief out the window in favor of what cacs say, correct?

 

[Yup]

claim italians as biracials, brehs

@Gravity is such an idiot sometimes.

 

[marcuz]

Why? Isn't that the same one drop rule y'all trying to force feed the other people. So why doesn't it apply this time?

there's absolutely no consistency, you cant even ask these dudes cus they've gotta wait on white folks to tell them the answer

 

[GreatestLaker]

If you want a specific individual example of a mixed race person bein classified and "claimed" by whites, then look at George Zimmerman. Brown skinned biracial and mixed race people of African descent are not accepted into the white community and they are subjected to oppression courtesy of the system of white supremacy.

Zimmerman was part black though.

 

[marcuz]

Zimmerman was part black though.

i didn't want to get into the fact that it was "black on black" crime according to the one drop rule

some of these dudes are going to end up with grandsons and great grandsons like zimmerman too

 

[emoney]

You use a loaded bullshyt term like "sub-sharan/black" then accuse someone else of having an agenda. FOH. Is Egypt below the Sahara? Let me guess, you're one of these "the Egyptians weren't black" clowns right? I'm not going to cloud the issue and argue over how much African ancestry Italians have, the point is that Italians were not "claimed" by whites initially. Italians were initially seen and classified as not white. Whites switched up and claimed them in order to further their own agenda.

How is Sub Saharan a "loaded bullshyt" term?

You can't argue how much African ancestry Italians have because you don't know.

Who cares if Italians weren't initially claimed as Whites. Bi-racial people were not initially considered Black (if you want to take it all the way back)

 

[Yup]

I am not saying that biracial/ multiracial people are not part of the black experience but is delusional to think that their white lineage has not provided them privilege and distinction in which they are the cream of the crop of 'black' excellence while alienating less mixed blacks.
People want to bury their head in the sand out of fear to state the obvious.

The biggest difference between us mixed people and those from carribean/africa/latin america...is no separate category was made for them but their privileged and social mobility within the american system gave them leverage that regular blacks didnt/don't have. That's the reality...

 

[TezMilli]

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This is true.... However, he struck out when he married out....

Well considering he did more for the black race than you and I and everyone in here posting, who am I to judge.

I'll let you cook tho

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

I am not saying that biracial/ multiracial people are not part of the black experience but is delusional to think that their white lineage has not provided them privilege and distinction in which they are the cream of the crop of 'black' excellence while alienating less mixed blacks.
People want to bury their head in the sand out of fear to state the obvious.

The biggest difference between us mixed people and those from carribean/africa/latin america...is no separate category was made for them but their privileged and social mobility within the american system gave them leverage that regular blacks didnt/don't have. That's the reality...

exaaactly!!!

 

[J-Nice]

Not only that. If Joakim stated he was white, how many cacs would hit him with the

whereas black would

zero racial pride, guidelines, authority, nothing. can't even get something which should come as natural instinct correct, how are you going to build a community when your own natural tribalism is screwed.

thats why we got a jewish kid running the naacp, shyt is embarrassing.

why not just re-create the panthers and have some korean as the president, we've already gone full retard.

One of the founding members of the NAACP was a Romanian Jew

 

[Spatial Paradox]

1. He is white but will most likely be seen as biracial.

2. That's one view. You either suscribe to it or you don't. Your mind is yours

Someone who's 53% white and 47% black isn't biracial, but white. That 3% makes all the difference, huh?

I haven't actually stated how I view race at all in this thread. Just describing how things are and why.

Why did they get lumped with blacks...blacks are long past the inability of self_determination and just cause they were called 'black' doesn't mean that the distinction was not made.

Biracials or those with high euro lineage are not representative of blacks and should have never been.

They got lumped because late 19th century white Americans were obsessed about racial purity. Kind of like how a lot of black people are I suppose, going off this thread anyway

I was going to ask what "high euro lineage" means, but honestly, all the talk about percentages is really showing me how ridiculous this whole debate is, so it doesn't really matter to me

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

Someone who's 53% white and 47% black isn't biracial, but white. That 3% makes all the difference, huh?

I haven't actually stated how I view race at all in this thread. Just describing how things are and why.




They got lumped because late 19th century white Americans were obsessed about racial purity. Kind of like how a lot of black people are I suppose, going off this thread anyway

I was going to ask what "high euro lineage" means, but honestly, all the talk about percentages is really showing me how ridiculous this whole debate is, so it doesn't really matter to me

they would still be bi-racial. the word 'bi' doesnt specific a percentage it only pertains to TWO different races. bi-racial aka two races.

 

[Spatial Paradox]

they would still be bi-racial. the word 'bi' doesnt specific a percentage it only pertains to TWO different races. bi-racial aka two races.

Which I don't disagree with. My post was a response to @7Revo from this back and forth:

You really want to go down that rabbit hole? Let me stretch my example just a little bit more then

This "white" kid with a little over 30% black ancestry has a kid with someone who's like one of his parents (you know, the black parent with 62.5% black ancestry and 37.5% white ancestry). Their kid is, by the numbers, about 53% white and 47% black. According to you, this kid is white and not biracial, even though almost half of his ancestry is black?

1. He is white but will most likely be seen as biracial.

For some folks, being more than 50% of one race makes you that race, no matter what your family tree actually looks like (hence the 3% comment)

 

[Blackout]

Someone who's 53% white and 47% black isn't biracial, but white. That 3% makes all the difference, huh?

I haven't actually stated how I view race at all in this thread. Just describing how things are and why.

1. Well we could say that between 50% and 60% means they can still be considered just biracial here in the US to reflect the fact that most of us AAs arent 100% black either.

2. Its not how things are though for those who do not subscribe to that view.

 

[Zero]

All this over a glorified hustler/pick-up artist turned psuedo black-intellectual's words you were desperate enough to believe.