Frederick Douglass Isn't Black

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Nobody is calling that kid black.
his parents are for starters. why arent you, he still has a black grand parent. yall like to abide by the one drop rule til you dont without any logic or reason.
 

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People are splitting hairs beCause it puts in question who are representing the best of black america. And Yes...the lighter you are/the more euro lineage you are but die to the one drop rule get categorized as black.

But the less mixed blacks get pushed in the fringes of society while only one acceptable image is put forth. many descendents of black elite became elite through white lineage priviledge.

yep. there were even societies that came up b/c of this. (paperbag, boule etc)

Hell, if you want to be really real it still exists today to a degree...
 

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you did it again :dead: are the biracials accepted by white supremacy or are they seen and treated as blacks?
I've clearly said that there are people of mixed racial heritage classified as white. The Italinas are an example of an entire people with mixed racial heritage that are classified as white. If you want a specific individual example of a mixed race person bein classified and "claimed" by whites, then look at George Zimmerman. Brown skinned biracial and mixed race people of African descent are not accepted into the white community and they are subjected to oppression courtesy of the system of white supremacy. That is what what makes them black. Thag is what makes us all black. That shouldn't be too hard for you to understand.


wait, i am what i'm treated as? :what: says who? our identity and how we view ourselves doesn't dependent on how cacs feel at the time, you sound weak & defeated as fukk.
Race is a social classification that is not self determined. Why can't you understand that simple ass concept? Are you really this dumb? If you're brown skinned of African descent then you will be seen and treated as a black person regardless of what race you see or view yourself as. Raven Symone said that she doesn't see/view herself as black and that she sees herself as just a human. Does that change the fact that she's seen and classified as black?

You're a fukking idiot my man.
 

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1. More than 50% of that race makes you that race, is what I said.

You really want to go down that rabbit hole? Let me stretch my example just a little bit more then

This "white" kid with a little over 30% black ancestry has a kid with someone who's like one of his parents (you know, the black parent with 62.5% black ancestry and 37.5% white ancestry). Their kid is, by the numbers, about 53% white and 47% black. According to you, this kid is white and not biracial, even though almost half of his ancestry is black?

And again, this is not even taking into account genotype ≠ phenotype, so he/she might look mixed. Or "black". Or "white".

2. The way things are here in the US mentality wise is not reliant on white people. Dont let them control your mind.

Mind control? It's an observation of how things are. Historically, "mixed" people got lumped in with "black" people and they all predictably mingled. End result, "black" ends up being a broader category than it is elsewhere.
 

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You really want to go down that rabbit hole? Let me stretch my example just a little bit more then

This "white" kid with a little over 30% black ancestry has a kid with someone who's like one of his parents (you know, the black parent with 62.5% black ancestry and 37.5% white ancestry). Their kid is, by the numbers, about 53% white and 47% black. According to you, this kid is white and not biracial, even though almost half of his ancestry is black?

And again, this is not even taking into account genotype ≠ phenotype, so he/she might look mixed. Or "black". Or "white".

Mind control? It's an observation of how things are. Historically, "mixed" people got lumped in with "black" people and they all predictably mingled. End result, "black" ends up being a broader category than it is elsewhere.
1. He is white but will most likely be seen as biracial.

2. That's one view. You either suscribe to it or you don't. Your mind is yours
 

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You really want to go down that rabbit hole? Let me stretch my example just a little bit more then

This "white" kid with a little over 30% black ancestry has a kid with someone who's like one of his parents (you know, the black parent with 62.5% black ancestry and 37.5% white ancestry). Their kid is, by the numbers, about 53% white and 47% black. According to you, this kid is white and not biracial, even though almost half of his ancestry is black?

And again, this is not even taking into account genotype ≠ phenotype, so he/she might look mixed. Or "black". Or "white".



Mind control? It's an observation of how things are. Historically, "mixed" people got lumped in with "black" people and they all predictably mingled. End result, "black" ends up being a broader category than it is elsewhere.
Why did they get lumped with blacks...blacks are long past the inability of self_determination and just cause they were called 'black' doesn't mean that the distinction was not made.

Biracials or those with high euro lineage are not representative of blacks and should have never been.
 
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Italians for the most part DO NOT have African ancestry, I think you meant to say Sicilians. The African ancestry they have is from Berbers from North Africa (who conquered islands like Sicily and Sardinia off the coast of Italy). When you say they have "African Ancestry" without specifying where and from which people it derives from I begin to think you have an agenda to mislead people or your just lazily parotting information you heard. But, just to make it plain, the African ancestry that Italians/Sicilians have is not Sub-Saharan/Black.
You use a loaded bullshyt term like "sub-sharan/black" then accuse someone else of having an agenda. FOH. Is Egypt below the Sahara? Let me guess, you're one of these "the Egyptians weren't black" clowns right? I'm not going to cloud the issue and argue over how much African ancestry Italians have, the point is that Italians were not "claimed" by whites initially. Italians were initially seen and classified as not white. Whites switched up and claimed them in order to further their own agenda.
 

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I've clearly said that there are people of mixed racial heritage classified as white. The Italinas are an example of an entire people with mixed racial heritage that are classified as white. If you want a specific individual example of a mixed race person bein classified and "claimed" by whites, then look at George Zimmerman. Brown skinned biracial and mixed race people of African descent are not accepted into the white community and they are subjected to oppression courtesy of the system of white supremacy. That is what what makes them black. Thag is what makes us all black. That shouldn't be too hard for you to understand.


Race is a social classification that is not self determined. Why can't you understand that simple ass concept? Are you really this dumb? If you're brown skinned of African descent then you will be seen and treated as a black person regardless of what race you see or view yourself as. Raven Symone said that she doesn't see/view herself as black and that she sees herself as just a human. Does that change the fact that she's seen and classified as black?


You're a fukking idiot my man.
this is just ridiculous breh, this basically reads you are what the white majority say you are.
 

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And now you are trying to further your own agenda by claiming anyonw that is a bit of kink on their hair with a tan is black.
Italians are not black people they are mediterranean euros...there have beem admixture 100s of years ago. Maybe ranging between 0 to 10% max...what the hell are you talking about?
You use a loaded bullshyt term like "sub-sharan/black" then accuse someone else of having an agenda. FOH. Is Egypt below the Sahara? Let me guess, you're one of these "the Egyptians weren't black" clowns right? I'm not going to cloud the issue and argue over how much African ancestry Italians have, the point is that Italians were not "claimed" by whites initially. Italians were initially seen and classified as not white. Whites switched up and claimed them in order to further their own agenda.
 

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his parents are for starters. why arent you, he still has a black grand parent. yall like to abide by the one drop rule til you dont without any logic or reason.

According to the one drop rule the kid is black. But I don't see him as black
 
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