For whom the Drum rolls: 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons Thread

[djthegreat88]

Monroe is in the top echelon of PF's in the league, and is still developing/getting better imo. He only played two years at G-Town learning the rest of his trade in the League. He runs the floor well, excellent foot work, has quick hands, has elite post moves, has mid range, has elite court vision for a big man. His main problem (what it seems like from complaints in regards to boards and defense) is that he doesn't have any hops/cant jump out of the gym. He gets good positioning for a board, but cats jump over his back (illegally) and steal the rebound. Monroe is one of the most disrespected players in the League in relation to getting calls, yes he gets stripped from holding the ball too low at times, but he also gets hacked quite a bit., and as i mentioned dudes go over his back often.









If you want him to be productive night in/night out, then feature him in the offense as the #1 option

Austin daye got highlight reels too. That don't mean he upper echelon.
He has horrible hands, is 6'11 and can barely dunk sometimes, just because you can make a fancy pass every now and then does not mean your a good passer. His TO are way too high. And he has not developed his mid range, in fact he taking even less mid range shots that last year. You have to be a super star to bet superstar call. I remember garnet told him to stop complaining to refs so much, when he was giving monroe advice.

Monroe too old to be all potential. At this point his potential is going to get joe d and cheeks fired. He needs to take next step now.

 

[djthegreat88]

But which one of those players are attainable. You'd take Duncan today over Monroe? Amir? Nene? Jefferson? So in essence You are saying You would rather salvage this season than look to the future. Monroe is 24, He hasn't peaked Yet. Most of them players on that list have. and the rest are putting up #'s similar to Greg.

I just listed 15 PF better than monroe right now. Pistons need a sf that can shoot, not a different pf. Your still caught up in numbers. Its timely rebounds, defensive rotations, pick and roll defense, shot blocking, and consistent mid range shot that are lacking with monroe. His final rebounding, points, and shooting % have always been good, he just lacks too many intangibles.

The thing is i don't dislike monroe its just that i expected more from him at this point and he's not improving. I just cannot imagine giving him the max, which someone will given him due to his size and age.

 

[eastside313]

Greg is damn near the Youngest of everyone on the list, and which one of those players are attainable. You'd take Duncan today over Monroe? Amir? Nene? Jefferson? So in essence You are saying You would rather salvage this season than look to the future. Monroe is 24, He hasn't peaked Yet. Most of them players on that list have. and the rest are putting up #'s similar to Greg. Greg also outplayed a few players on that list throughout his career and this season. Nice list but it doesn't support a reason for Moose to be traded.

When the hell is he gonna peak. He in his 4th year and a contract year and he still can't come out and dominate.

Josh Smith has made me tune out from Pistons game. If we could keep one, I would go with Monroe. dude is shooting 51 % on only 12 shyts. He isnt featured. Is he a legit number 1 option-no, but I rather him getting 15 shots per game and not Jennings or Smith. This team is poorly constructed and poorly coached.

The answer to who stays is Smith-only because of that terrible contract.

I wouldn't mind smith getting 20 shots a game as long they're all in or around the paint. The team would be so much better with smith playing the 4. It would also help Drummond out immensely on the defensive end.

 

[eastside313]

1.love
2. Aldridge
3. Griffin
4. Bosh
5. Lee
6.Randolph
7. West
8. Millsap
9. Davis
10. Duncan
11. Jefferson
12. Ibaka
13. Dirk
14. Nene
15. Amir johnson
shyt i could make a case for other young guys favors, henson, thompson. Or old ones like boozer and bargnani. Or stretch 4s like josh and melo.
Jon leuer just outplayed monroe yesterday.

 

[NormanConnors]

1.love
2. Aldridge
3. Griffin
4. Bosh
5. Lee
6.Randolph
7. West
8. Millsap
9. Davis
10. Duncan
11. Jefferson
12. Ibaka
13. Dirk
14. Nene
15. Amir johnson
shyt i could make a case for other young guys favors, henson, thompson. Or old ones like boozer and bargnani. Or stretch 4s like josh and melo.
Jon leuer just outplayed monroe yesterday.

2 of those players listed are sure HOF's

The majority of the PF' s on that list play absolutely no defense at all. Monroe has outplayed Bosh, Ibaka and held his own with everyone on that list besides Duncan (the games I saw Duncan gave him problems, but also got away with a lot of shyt because of who he is)

West, Nene and Amir Johnson?

so you want Josh to be a stretch 4 and continue shooting jumpshots? Josh Smith can only go left, dunk and get the occasional weak side block..soon to be 30 year old, his next advancement is to be leaving his prime.

I wouldn't say Leuer or Z-BO outplayed him, Monroe was actually giving that work in the 1st half until Memphis decided to take our post players away in the 2nd half by packing the paint, they couldn't make open jump shots.

After thinking about it I see what you are saying about Monroe's #'s not equating to a max deal, I can agree with that. I'm just saying he isn't featured enough to avg those max deal #'s and that is not his fault. Al Jefferson has been featured as the main guy on terrible teams for years/gets his numbers, and he is also a guy that will give get 20 and give up 20, so is Love.

 

[wire28]

 

[Knights89]

and another one...

 

[wire28]

im feeling like we should probably trade gregory for a 1st. and try to blow it up. trade josh, bj, fire dumars lol. hopefully we dont get screwed out of our lotto pick and maybe we finally get lucky and can get a superstar in the draft

 

[Malta]

Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings last 5 games -

Jennings
11.6ppg 8.2apg 30% from the field

Smith
10.4ppg 8.0rpg 3.2apg 30% from the field


They are taking 7 threes per game during that stretch, and making 1 between them. Dumars either has to trade them, or lose his job and hope that the person taking his job will do it.

 

[jaguar paw]

Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings last 5 games -

Jennings
11.6ppg 8.2apg 30% from the field

Smith
10.4ppg 8.0rpg 3.2apg 30% from the field


They are taking 7 threes per game during that stretch, and making 1 between them. Dumars either has to trade them, or lose his job and hope that the person taking his job will do it.

 

[Malta]

 

[pawdalaw]

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Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings last 5 games -

Jennings
11.6ppg 8.2apg 30% from the field

Smith
10.4ppg 8.0rpg 3.2apg 30% from the field


They are taking 7 threes per game during that stretch, and making 1 between them. Dumars either has to trade them, or lose his job and hope that the person taking his job will do it.

One good thing is BJ has been taking less shots. during that same period he is averaging almost as many assists as attempts. Agreed on Joe's Job. How does folks feel about Billups being groomed for GM?

 

[manyfaces]

Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings last 5 games -

Jennings
11.6ppg 8.2apg 30% from the field

Smith
10.4ppg 8.0rpg 3.2apg 30% from the field


They are taking 7 threes per game during that stretch, and making 1 between them. Dumars either has to trade them, or lose his job and hope that the person taking his job will do it.

 

[Malta]

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One good thing is BJ has been taking less shots. during that same period he is averaging almost as many assists as attempts. Agreed on Joe's Job. How does folks feel about Billups being groomed for GM?

Nah, he's taking 13 shots a game in that stretch, dude is one of the most inefficient starters in the league. I've hated his game for a while now, dude is a bench player that gets to start.

 

[jaguar paw]

I really wanted to see Drummond and Monroe grow together.