Terry foster was talking about it on the radio yesterday. Said he was out at practice and it seems like a trade is coming.
Do we want a trade to help them make the playoffs or to help em tank
Dumars in a contract year...aint nobody tanking
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Dumars in a contract year...aint nobody tanking
eastside313
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Dumars in a contract year...aint nobody tanking
We need to start a fire Dumars campaign on twitter to Tom ogres and platinum equity.
Stealth
They know the face and they know the name
dumars needs to be fired immediately. I would blame it on the coach but idk, I've read a lot of players saying they like cheeks and i think they hired phil jackson to help them with their coaching decision. Idk whether its bad coaching or just a bad roster bc of dumars. Either way changes need to be made
dumars needs to be fired immediately. I would blame it on the coach but idk, I've read a lot of players saying they like cheeks and i think they hired phil jackson to help them with their coaching decision. Idk whether its bad coaching or just a bad roster bc of dumars. Either way changes need to be made
nikkas hated Law Frank..anything would be an upgrade to the players from that.
I have my doubts on cheeks' development skills. He may be a great lead assistant or coach on a team that always has structure and routine.
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Barry Sanders
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its dumars as soon as he get cap space what do he do sign ben gordon and charlie v. 
and then josh smith and brandon jennings
now he drafted well when drafted monroe and drummond
but brought in smith and them 3 on the floor at the same time dont work
then picked kcp over burke lucky burke
and then josh smith and brandon jennings
now he drafted well when drafted monroe and drummond
but brought in smith and them 3 on the floor at the same time dont work
then picked kcp over burke lucky burke
eastside313
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Man you can't blame cheeks for this shyt. Dumars put 2 together Jennings and smith and it has blew up in his face.
Stealth
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yeah no doubt lmao anything is a upgrade over frank. You know that fakkit has never been involved with basketball up until his college years right? Or even past that idr. He had nothing to do with basketball until past high school. How he got a NBA head coaching job is just
yeah no doubt lmao anything is a upgrade over frank. You know that fakkit has never been involved with basketball up until his college years right? Or even past that idr. He had nothing to do with basketball until past high school. How he got a NBA head coaching job is just
Dude 1.5% of Americans are Jewish and they all are in the NBA (Owners/execs/coaches)
eastside313
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Drew Sharp: Detroit Pistons' ill-matched roster has owner Tom Gores' imprint
How reputable is a league in which tanking becomes a rational strategy?
And the NBA wonders why it still has a perception problem.
Tanking isn’t a conscious choice for the Pistons in their latest semblance of disarray. It’s a byproduct of simply stepping out onto the floor.
It’s not surprising they’re again a dysfunctional mess with disjointed pieces that can’t properly mesh until other roster moves are made. There’s no shortage of blame for yet another season falling into irrelevance.
Coach Maurice Cheeks might have already lost control of his team — and he has had the job for only 45 games. Joe Dumars has lost the public’s confidence because he hired Cheeks and assembled this roster.
But Tom Gores shouldn’t escape criticism.
The Pistons’ owner set this nonsense in motion, creating a playoffs-or-else ultimatum this season instead of realizing that an improved but still-flawed roster would require at least another year of tweaking. Gores told everybody what they wanted to hear last spring with his “we had better make the playoffs” declaration. Accountability’s necessary, but appeasing the torch-and-pitchfork crowd only offers short-term relief unless it’s followed up with a thoughtfully articulated strategy.
I’m not sure that you can trust Gores to have that plan. He’s obviously a smart businessman. Dummies don’t build themselves into billionaires. But I’m afraid that Gores falls into that ego trap that claims many other professional sports owners who suddenly gain a fair measure of public attention they didn’t get while amassing their fortunes.
Instead of blaming Dumars for not drafting either Michigan’s Trey Burke or Syracuse’s Michael Carter-Williams, perhaps that wrath should be reserved for Gores. If ownership’s demanding a playoff season, then you can’t really trust putting such responsibility in the occasionally shaky hands of a rookie point guard, can you?
Gores’ ultimatum resulted in the Pistons finding pieces first and worrying if they’ll eventually fit second. That might get you a playoff berth and a quick first-round elimination, but it’s not the approach for building a good team capable of making extended playoff runs in the future.
The Pistons have underachieved this season. They play disinterested. They lack an identity. They lack players with clearly defined roles. But the roster isn’t disjointed because newcomers Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings shoot too much. It’s disjointed because they have to shoot the ball more than necessary.
What are their options?
They have a center in second-year project Andre Drummond who remains offensively clueless around the basket. Didn’t he supposedly spend every waking moment last summer working on his low-post footwork?
They have a sulking power forward in Greg Monroe who lacks the mid-range offensive game essential for a four in today’s more athletic NBA. Either he’s incapable or unwilling to broaden that shooting repertoire. Either way, it’s been obvious for the past year that you can’t play him and Drummond together.
Monroe must go, making room for Smith as the full-time power forward — the position that best accentuates his vast skill set.
And they still don’t have a defense-stretching athletic small forward.
Think about it. They haven’t had a conventional scoring three since Grant Hill. And the Pistons drafted him 20 years ago!
Gores should be upset with the Pistons’ performance. How bad must a team be if it can’t finish in the top eight of a woefully weak Eastern Conference this season? But Gores should also hold himself accountable for wrongly creating an illusion of urgency.
Contact Drew Sharp: dsharp@freepress.com . Follow him on Twitter @drewsharp.
How reputable is a league in which tanking becomes a rational strategy?
And the NBA wonders why it still has a perception problem.
Tanking isn’t a conscious choice for the Pistons in their latest semblance of disarray. It’s a byproduct of simply stepping out onto the floor.
It’s not surprising they’re again a dysfunctional mess with disjointed pieces that can’t properly mesh until other roster moves are made. There’s no shortage of blame for yet another season falling into irrelevance.
Coach Maurice Cheeks might have already lost control of his team — and he has had the job for only 45 games. Joe Dumars has lost the public’s confidence because he hired Cheeks and assembled this roster.
But Tom Gores shouldn’t escape criticism.
The Pistons’ owner set this nonsense in motion, creating a playoffs-or-else ultimatum this season instead of realizing that an improved but still-flawed roster would require at least another year of tweaking. Gores told everybody what they wanted to hear last spring with his “we had better make the playoffs” declaration. Accountability’s necessary, but appeasing the torch-and-pitchfork crowd only offers short-term relief unless it’s followed up with a thoughtfully articulated strategy.
I’m not sure that you can trust Gores to have that plan. He’s obviously a smart businessman. Dummies don’t build themselves into billionaires. But I’m afraid that Gores falls into that ego trap that claims many other professional sports owners who suddenly gain a fair measure of public attention they didn’t get while amassing their fortunes.
Instead of blaming Dumars for not drafting either Michigan’s Trey Burke or Syracuse’s Michael Carter-Williams, perhaps that wrath should be reserved for Gores. If ownership’s demanding a playoff season, then you can’t really trust putting such responsibility in the occasionally shaky hands of a rookie point guard, can you?
Gores’ ultimatum resulted in the Pistons finding pieces first and worrying if they’ll eventually fit second. That might get you a playoff berth and a quick first-round elimination, but it’s not the approach for building a good team capable of making extended playoff runs in the future.
The Pistons have underachieved this season. They play disinterested. They lack an identity. They lack players with clearly defined roles. But the roster isn’t disjointed because newcomers Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings shoot too much. It’s disjointed because they have to shoot the ball more than necessary.
What are their options?
They have a center in second-year project Andre Drummond who remains offensively clueless around the basket. Didn’t he supposedly spend every waking moment last summer working on his low-post footwork?
They have a sulking power forward in Greg Monroe who lacks the mid-range offensive game essential for a four in today’s more athletic NBA. Either he’s incapable or unwilling to broaden that shooting repertoire. Either way, it’s been obvious for the past year that you can’t play him and Drummond together.
Monroe must go, making room for Smith as the full-time power forward — the position that best accentuates his vast skill set.
And they still don’t have a defense-stretching athletic small forward.
Think about it. They haven’t had a conventional scoring three since Grant Hill. And the Pistons drafted him 20 years ago!
Gores should be upset with the Pistons’ performance. How bad must a team be if it can’t finish in the top eight of a woefully weak Eastern Conference this season? But Gores should also hold himself accountable for wrongly creating an illusion of urgency.
Contact Drew Sharp: dsharp@freepress.com . Follow him on Twitter @drewsharp.
Drew is correct, but still a chump at the same time lol. Took to twitter to downplay Burke, and in a way to defend Dumars.
fukk everybody involved in this situation plus Cheeks, Jennings, and Smith lmao
fukk everybody involved in this situation plus Cheeks, Jennings, and Smith lmao
eastside313
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How the fukk is he gonna defend Dumars? He's been awful since the Rasheed heist. 
Did Gores stop him from drafting Burke/MCW and signing Jennings to that awful deal? Did Gores make him sign a PF, when they already had a starting PF? Is Gores stopping him from trading Monroe? fukk outta here.
Did Gores stop him from drafting Burke/MCW and signing Jennings to that awful deal? Did Gores make him sign a PF, when they already had a starting PF? Is Gores stopping him from trading Monroe? fukk outta here.
pawdalaw
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How the fukk is he gonna defend Dumars? He's been awful since the Rasheed heist.
Did Gores stop him from drafting Burke/MCW and signing Jennings to that awful deal? Did Gores make him sign a PF, when they already had a starting PF? Is Gores stopping him from trading Monroe? fukk outta here.
Unfortunately I think the answer to most of those questions is Yes. The Smith signing seemed like Gores attempt to acquire a star. The Cheeks signing had a hired consultant. At the end of last season He declared "Tell the world We have $ to spend". I think Drew is spot on about Gores. I think He's wrong about Monroe though.
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Truth! I'll give Joe some leeway on the Jennings deal. He had to have the Pistons win now, and drafting Burke or MCW would have been too much of a gamble expecting them to start at the 1, even keeping BK was a dice roll. Jennings atleast was proven to a degree but that gamble hasn't worked even with former pg Cheeks coaching him. Second half of the season will tell if Young Money will always be a low percentage shoot first pg that can't run a team.How the fukk is he gonna defend Dumars? He's been awful since the Rasheed heist.
Did Gores stop him from drafting Burke/MCW and signing Jennings to that awful deal? Did Gores make him sign a PF, when they already had a starting PF? Is Gores stopping him from trading Monroe? fukk outta here.
I always felt Lionel Hollins was a better fit for the Pistons job but I thought Cheeks would be better than this.