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The usual lottery teams are there annually because they have no clue how to build or coach once they do get pieces and they think that it'll just fix itself as they get high picks. Obviously the heat aren't a team like that. The spurs did tank the 1996-97 season. They've made great moves ever since is the thing. The Celtics did tank for a season by trading their core guys away. Billy king just gave them a kings ransom and then they got Isaiah Thomas for pennies. Dallas hasn't tanked for the last 5 years and have been in limbo, making the playoffs every year and losing in the first round each time they make it. I don't like the concept of just stripping the roster for parts, but a step or two back might be needed in order to get the player that's good enough to put us over the top. Ideally we see great improvement from Winslow and waiters and maybe that's enough. Fingers crossed, but that'd be an unprecedented turn of events. I'm holding out hope we can swing a trade of some kind.

One could certainly argue this year was the step back, no?
 

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One could certainly argue this year was the step back, no?
No because they don't have a good pick coming down the pipe. You need valuable assets to improve, whether its caps space or draft picks to spend or trade. I don't see any top shelf free agents on the market and we don't have a valuable pick, so we'll have to swing a trade of some kind as it's highly unlikely a star falls to us where we'll be drafting. 35-45 wins is the dead zone for nba teams. Bad enough to not truly compete and too good to get a high pick that'll help you do so.
 

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No because they don't have a good pick coming down the pipe. You need valuable assets to improve, whether its caps space or draft picks to spend or trade. I don't see any top shelf free agents on the market and we don't have a valuable pick, so we'll have to swing a trade of some kind as it's highly unlikely a star falls to us where we'll be drafting. 35-45 wins is the dead zone for nba teams. Bad enough to not truly compete and too good to get a high pick that'll help you do so.
So picks are only good in the top 3, top 5, top 8? Where are we drawing the line for what a good pick is? I'm looking at this past weekends' schedule and I saw 2 rookies playing well who were drafted at 22 and 15 respectively.
 

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So picks are only good in the top 3, top 5, top 8? Where are we drawing the line for what a good pick is? I'm looking at this past weekends' schedule and I saw 2 rookies playing well who were drafted at 22 and 15 respectively.
I didn't say there's no good players outside the top ten. What we need is a cornerstone player. This team we presently have would be a championship supporting cast around a top shelf shooting guard or small forward. Maybe even a great power forward. The problem is that outside the top ten, you rarely find a player of that quality. Off the top of my head, the only cornerstone/MVP caliber players I can recall being drafted outside the top ten are Kobe, based Nash, and Karl Malone. Aside from Curry, pretty much every player of that caliber goes in the top 5. If pat can fleece someone in a trade, that'll work too. I mean we didn't give up much to get Shaq in 2004. Too much to still be done for me to be all "doom and gloom :snoop:" or "heat in five :smugfavre:" yet. I'm optimistic they'll figure something out though.
 

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J rich with the isaiah rashad reference:salute:

JRich probably got put onto Zaywop during his time at Tennessee :myman:
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Well if you all think James Johnson can play an entire season at the PF spot i'm good with him Winslow and WhiteSide being our frontcourt moving forward.

Next question would be do we break the bank for Waiters? Provided we dont have to spend too much to keep Johnson.
 
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