Religion/Spirituality For atheists: What would God have to do to prove to you that he's real?

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Well shouldn't all of the prophecies have come true?

In due time. All prophecies arent going to come true at the same time.

Fulfilled by people who wanted to fulfil the prophecy. Things they can affect. But when it comes to the Nile drying up, or making Egypt a desolate waste, that gets a bit harder to achieve.

It doesnt matter friend. Because when the prophecy was originally made, Israel was still a nation. So how did Ezekiel, Isaiah, Daniel etc... know that Israel would cease to be a nation and then come back again?

As for the Nile drying up, there have been reports that it is. Whether you believe it or not (as everything else) is on you.

No not just the wise will understand. The whole of it. Persuading those who won't fall for these stories unwise or fools. Them's cult tactics. Even in context.

The context has everything to do with it my friend. It has to do with whats going on globally. And as you can see by your brethren that avoided the video I posted.

Thats what its getting at. The wise will understand and refine their ways because of the direction the world is heading. The wicked will continue doing wickedly till the end surprises them.

Just remember you have a chance to repent but that door can be closed on us my friend.

 

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In due time. All prophecies arent going to come true at the same time.

So they may keep saying. Tomorrow never comes. And so on ad infinitum.

As for the Nile drying up, there have been reports that it is. Whether you believe it or not (as everything else) is on you.

Reports or proof? If the latter I'm all ears.

Just remember you have a chance to repent but that door can be closed on us my friend.

But if I have no reason to believe your guy or his punishment exists, why bother myself? Instead I live by this:

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

 

[Everythingg]

So they may keep saying. Tomorrow never comes. And so on ad infinitum.

Prophecies have already come true my friend

Reports or proof? If the latter I'm all ears.

For what? You'll just cut it out of my post like you just did with Israel existing again. That doesnt count huh?

I have no problem giving the knowledge that was given to me, but I dont see much reason to if you'll just cut it out of my quotes if you cant argue against it.

But if I have no reason to believe your guy or his punishment exists, why bother myself? Instead I live by this:

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

I dont think you can "live a good life" while ignoring the impact the Creator had on your life. I guess if one said "Im not sure if God exists or not so Imma live the best life I can" thats one thing (and there are holes to be poked into this thinking as well). But to be an atheist and still act as if you're not offending or at the very least DISRESPECTING the Creator? I call that wishful thinking at best.

 

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But to be an atheist and still act as if you're not offending or at the very least DISRESPECTING the Creator? I call that wishful thinking at best.

Your guy is a bit short of being a supreme being if he catches feelings like that.

 

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Prophecies have already come true my friend




For what? You'll just cut it out of my post like you just did with Israel existing again. That doesnt count huh?

I have no problem giving the knowledge that was given to me, but I dont see much reason to if you'll just cut it out of my quotes if you cant argue against it.

If you don't understand the concept of self-fulfilling prophecies I got nothing else for you. The Egypt and the Nile are bit harder to fulfil eh?

 

[Everythingg]

Your guy is a bit short of being a supreme being if he catches feelings like that.

How so brother?

 

[Everythingg]

If you don't understand the concept of self-fulfilling prophecies I got nothing else for you.

Change the "self" part and you have a point. But maybe if I ask again you'll answer instead of cutting my posts into pieces so you dont have to answer certain things. Just for the record, if theres if I am or have done the same, feel free to call me out on it. I try to keep it 100 though I fail at times admittedly. So heres my question:

This prophecy of Israel being scattered and regathered again was MADE while Israel was STILL a nation. So how did Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah etc.. know that Israel would cease to exist, then exist again? They just guessed?

The Egypt and the Nile are bit harder to fulfil eh?

Not for God. For people yes but even they're trying to do that by building dams on the river.[/QUOTE]

 

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Change the "self" part and you have a point. But maybe if I ask again you'll answer instead of cutting my posts into pieces so you dont have to answer certain things. Just for the record, if theres if I am or have done the same, feel free to call me out on it. I try to keep it 100 though I fail at times admittedly. So heres my question:

This prophecy of Israel being scattered and regathered again was MADE while Israel was STILL a nation. So how did Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah etc.. know that Israel would cease to exist, then exist again? They just guessed?

No, they didn't guess. They make all sorts of prophecies and then the God squad who have the power to fulfil it do so. Hence the analogy of me fulfilling my night out prophecy. If these same people managed to drain the Nile or clear Egypt out of all people then it would also be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Just say you don't understand what certain terms mean and it makes things easier.

Not for God. For people yes but even they're trying to do that by building dams on the river.

Haha! There's a team trying to make Bible predictions come true? Even if they did every one it wouldn't prove God.

 

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How so brother?

Do you really need this explained?

 

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No, they didn't guess. They make all sorts of prophecies and then the God squad who have the power to fulfil it do so. Hence the analogy of me fulfilling my night out prophecy. If these same people managed to drain the Nile or clear Egypt out of all people then it would also be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Just say you don't understand what certain terms mean and it makes things easier.

God squad? Who are they?

You're still not answering. How did Daniel, Isaiah, and Ezekiel know that they would cease to exist as a nation (as they were when they wrote the prophecies) and THEN exist AGAIN at a later date?

Haha! There's a team trying to make Bible predictions come true? Even if they did every one it wouldn't prove God.

They have their own plans in mind my friend. But me and my God are laughing at their plans because they will not be successful in the manner that they believe. Thats why I posted that video that your friends ignored (as expected to be honest)

Psalm 2
1. Why do the nations conspire and the people plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth and the rulers band together against the Eternal God and His anointed saying, 3 "Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles"

 

[Everythingg]

Do you really need this explained?

More like elaborated. I want to know why you believe what you said my friend..

 

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God squad? Who are they?

Add it to your list of terms to look up.

 

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More like elaborated. I want to know why you believe what you said my friend..

Your either being obtuse on purpose or you're quite dense.

 

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Add it to your list of terms to look up.

So you dont know who you're referring to? Or you're trying to send me on a wild goose chase, when you could simply type the words of who you're referring to and how Daniel, Ezekiel, and Isaiah knew that those things would happen?

 

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Your either being obtuse on purpose or you're quite dense.

I'd go with neither. I was waiting on you to explain why God would not be a Supreme Being because it took offense or deemed an atheist's stance DISRESPECTFUL. Do you have an answer? Or as was pointed out earlier are you the wicked that will continually do wicked even in the presence of signs? I do not believe such because you are here discussing while others avoided and ran away. But my perception can be off at times.