Religion/Spirituality For atheists: What would God have to do to prove to you that he's real?

NoMayo15

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Im sure you've heard enough of politicians to know that you dont take their word at face value. Such as, when the devil comes to a person (hypothetically since you've fallen for the lie that the devil doesnt exist) it is not going to come in a evil way. But say nice things that gain the trust of the person. So what do YOU think Bush means by New world order and is it positive for US as the people at the bottom? What will he be successful at?

Just because you dont understand whats facing humanity at this point, and how it is a CRITICAL time for human history, doesnt mean Im being cryptic. It doesnt mean Im using nonsequitors I've answered everything thats asked of me friend. Its your brethren that avoid time and time again and then hop in other threads to try to clown lol. But its okay because what Im doing has to do with God Almighty and pleasing this Being. Alot of people are gonna be adversaries to this plan, but thats fine because in the end, they'll see that trusting in God Almighty over yourself was/is the better way to go.

So please, tell us what the new world order is and why leaders are calling for it? I can post a video of different leaders saying it if you want but I dont think I should have to.

Oh you're so right! It's everyone else who refuses to acknowledge the facts you plainly lay out. Yeah, I'm sorry for ever questioning your reasoning.

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Oh you're so right!

Exactly friend.:youngsabo:

Which is most likely the reason you didnt address the video, the content of the video, or the implications of what the person in the video (and other politicians that shape the world globally) said and how it would affect you and me or our descendants. Glad we came to an agreement
 

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Of course it doesnt make sense to you....


Daniel 12
10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

So it makes sense why you think its nonsense. But the wise will understand and take heed.
you are very wise:smile:
 

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Joke and play. But its on your head when they take over you or your descendants for the short time they're alloted.

And with no faith in God :scusthov: Just throwing your soul and physical body into the bushes
I am so skurred right now
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Of course it doesnt make sense to you....


Daniel 12
10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

So it makes sense why you think its nonsense. But the wise will understand and take heed.

Or... this is the type of thing they tell people in cults. To make you feel like you're right and everyone else is wrong. And that only fools will not believe! I don't wanna be a fool! I wanna be with the cool kids who are going to space in a UFO by the aliens that are only saving the smart folk!
 

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Or... this is the type of thing they tell people in cults. To make you feel like you're right and everyone else is wrong. And that only fools will not believe! I don't wanna be a fool! I wanna be with the cool kids who are going to space in a UFO by the aliens that are only saving the smart folk!

What cult do you know of that has had prophecies fulfilled? And not only that but has preserved its status for over centuries?
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Why was Abraham's name made great throughout the world?

Because lies and stories can't become widespread therefore it must be true?

Why does Israel exist after not existing for 2000+ years?

It's like me saying I'm gonna go out to a party tonight and then I go out to a party. Prophecy fulfilled!

Still, wouldn't you agree that the tactics you mentioned earlier are common to cults?
 

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Because lies and stories can't become widespread therefore it must be true?

Yes my friend that can happen. Im just telling you whats written. When that promise was written (which was after it happened) no one other than his descendants knew of him (Abraham). But fast forward thousands of years later and what do you have? Abraham's name is known throughout the world. Thats just one example of prophecy coming true though


It's like me saying I'm gonna go out to a party tonight and then I go out to a party. Prophecy fulfilled!

Still, wouldn't you agree that the tactics you mentioned earlier are common to cults?

I disagree. Because that involves you and a timeline of hours/minutes. Dont you think thats different than prophecies that occur at intervals of 100's of years to thousands?

Are you speaking of the "the wise will understand"? If so, no it is not the same as cults. Now, if you pick that verse and make it stand on its own, then yes. But if you read it in context, you'll see what its referring to.
 

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Yes my friend that can happen. Im just telling you whats written. When that promise was written (which was after it happened) no one other than his descendants knew of him (Abraham). But fast forward thousands of years later and what do you have? Abraham's name is known throughout the world. Thats just one example of prophecy coming true though

Well shouldn't all of the prophecies have come true?

I disagree. Because that involves you and a timeline of hours/minutes. Dont you think thats different than prophecies that occur at intervals of 100's of years to thousands?

Fulfilled by people who wanted to fulfil the prophecy. Things they can affect. But when it comes to the Nile drying up, or making Egypt a desolate waste, that gets a bit harder to achieve.

Are you speaking of the "the wise will understand"? If so, no it is not the same as cults. Now, if you pick that verse and make it stand on its own, then yes. But if you read it in context, you'll see what its referring to.

No not just the wise will understand. The whole of it. Persuading those who won't fall for these stories unwise or fools. Them's cult tactics. Even in context.
 
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