"Folks want to be Malcolm X while having the economic policies of Ronald Reagan"

[AlainLocke]

I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm saying something that obviously flies over your head. I don't deny that Malcolm evolved. I'm saying that people don't revere the version of Malcolm that you think evolved for the better. They revere the version of Malcolm that followed Elijah Muhammad. What part of that don't you understand?

And I am saying IDGAF about what people revere...they wanna revere the puppet Malcolm X that didn't voice his own opinions and beliefs that is fine...because he could talk real good..that's fine...

I don't care what nikkas feel...I only care about what is accurate....

 

[Poitier]

Giving people property outright isn't welfare. I strongly advise you to watch the whole video.

Post a Tim Wise video, brehs.

 

[Majestic]

Post a Tim Wise video, brehs.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-socialism-so-poisonous-in-American-politics

Don't wanna watch it and use the brehs cop out instead? Here read this
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-socialism-so-poisonous-in-American-politics

 

[Majestic]

The usa was a socialist society but went full out capitalist when blacks wanted the same benefits from the socialist system like whites did.

 

[YouMadd?]

Reagan didn’t actually accomplish fiscal conservatism. Big defense budget, big spender...

 

[Gravity]

And I am saying IDGAF about what people revere...they wanna revere the puppet Malcolm X that didn't voice his own opinions and beliefs that is fine...because he could talk real good..that's fine...

I don't care what nikkas feel...I only care about what is accurate....

Then what's your point? You ran in here on some "nah people got Malcolm fukked up" shyt then when I check that it's "I don't care what people think tho".

People don't have Malcolm from caked up, they just respect ad relate more to the Malcolm that was with the nation vs the guy we only got a glimpse of afterwards.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

This is true

 

[AlainLocke]

Then what's your point? You ran in here on some "nah people got Malcolm fukked up" shyt then when I check that it's "I don't care what people think tho".

You didn't check.anything because what you said equated to...

"I like the NOI...and Malcolm X when he was with the NOI...other Black people do too..."

and I said..."Fine...cool..."

You the one that quoted me...because your view of Malcolm X as some Black conservative idol is false...

All I said was Malcolm X wasn't a conservative because people incorrectly think that Malcolm X while he with the NOI was speaking from his own thoughts and beliefs...when he wasn't...he was parroting the NOI philosophy...

Malcolm X after going to Mecca developed his own politics and belief system that was Pan-Africanist, Revolutionary, Anti-capitalist...and rooted in understanding of Islam...

And those are facts....so like...I don't get your point...besides the fact..."Black people liked Malcolm X when he was with the NOI..."

And IDGAF about that....I only care about Malcolm X's political beliefs being portrayed accurately....

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

And ?

 

[Gravity]

You didn't check.anything because what you said equated to...

"I like the NOI...and Malcolm X when he was with the NOI..."

and I said..."Fine...cool..."

All I said was Malcolm X wasn't a conservative because people incorrectly think that Malcolm X while he with the NOI was speaking from his own thoughts and beliefs...when he wasn't...he was parroting the NOI philosophy...

Malcolm X after going to Mecca developed his own politics and belief system that was Pan-Africanist, Revolutionary, Anti-capitalist...and rooted in understanding of Islam...

And those are facts....so like...I don't get your point...besides the fact..."Black people liked Malcolm X when he was with the NOI..."

And IDGAF about that....I only care about Malcolm X's political beliefs being portrayed accurately....

Well my point is that you're misrepresenting the truth to push your own agenda. You're basically saying that the years Malcolm with the nation don't count and that nothing he said during that time represented his true feelings. Thats bullshyt. He was with the nation for over 15 years and only lived for 1 year after he left the nation. To pretend that 1 year is more representative of who he was as a public figure than the 15 years he spent with the nation is a lie. Ecen if you want to say that he was a puppet, he voluntarily chose to be a puppet. It was his decision.He was a puppet because he believed in Elijah Muhammad's teachings.

 

[Hovsta]

Greenwood, Tulsa had a great capitalist market

Regulated market>>>>

I said this a million time Capitalism equals innovation.
True socialism always ends up being a damn near police state( which we are damn near in) or dictatorship.
Free college for everyone works fine in small country’s but America is big that would decrease the already minimal impact a degree has.

Plus 3/4 people on the coli are conservative as fukk(which black people should be but that’s another topic). Give power to the government but don’t get involved with local elections brehs.

 

[jackson35]

Malcolm X was a revolutionary Black Nationalist...yeah...he wasn't a reactionary Black nationalist like the NOI...

And he no longer advocated for segregation but for human rights and a international revolution...

"The white man knows what a revolution is. He knows that the Black Revolution is worldwide in scope and in nature. The Black Revolution is sweeping Asia, is sweeping Africa, is rearing its head in Latin America. The Cuban Revolution - that's a revolution. They overturned the system. Revolution is in Asia, revolution is in Africa, and the white man is screaming because he sees revolution in Latin America. How do you think he'll react to you when you learn what a real revolution is?"
-Malcolm X

"It is incorrect to classify the revolt of the Negro as simply a radical conflict of black against white or as a purely American problem. Rather, we are today seeing a global rebellion of the oppressed against the oppressor, the exploited against the exploiter."
-Malcolm X

what proof do you have the noi was reactionary? elijah m gave birth to the black power movement. elijah m changed the image of the black man woman and child. elijah m introduce veganism to the black community which the white community stole from him and now they gat a lock on veganism.

 

[AlainLocke]

Well my point is that you're misrepresenting the truth to push your own agenda. You're basically saying that the years Malcolm with the nation don't count and that nothing he said during that time represented his true feelings. Thats bullshyt. He was with the nation for over 15 years and only lived for 1 year after he left the nation. To pretend that 1 year is more representative of who he was as a public figure than the 15 years he spent with the nation is a lie. Ecen if you want to say that he was a puppet, he voluntarily chose to be a puppet. It was his decision.He was a puppet because he believed in Elijah Muhammad's teachings.

No...

See we are talking about political beliefs...and the man was in a cult like environment...where he was a representative of the leader of the Black Muslim Movement...

Malcolm X wasn't speak his own beliefs...he was speaking on behalf of the NOI....

This thread is about Black people that follow Malcolm X...or say they believe in Malcolm X but have conservative economic beliefs rooted in capitalism...

Someone said...well he was with the NOI so he could be fiscally conservative and I corrected them and showed them what Malcolm X actually believed...

Anybody that actually knows Malcolm X knows that he denounces the NOI, NOI's beliefs and practices...which includes capitalism and racial segregation and he becomes a revolutionary Pan Africanist

I am really tired of people misrepresenting Malcolm X to have him agree with their politics...

You got Black Nationalists, Black Liberals and Black Conservatives all trying say Malcolm X believed this and said this...instead of going to what he actually said later in his life...about his political ideology

You really want Malcolm X to be a conservative nationalist like yourself and the man himself said he was not in the end and died a revolutionary pan africanist...

Just like WEB Dubois was a liberal and died a Pan African Socialist...


Like I said before...you are arguing with Malcolm X and Malcolm X is dead...he already told you what he actually believes and denounced all that NOI believed in...and he said he was ignorant and going off what Elijah Muhammad told him because he loved him so and believed in him.

What more do you want from him?

And you don't have point btw..

Malcolm X was a criminal for years and one day decided he wasn't gonna be a criminal anymore...people change...

 

[Gravity]

No...

See we are talking about political beliefs...and the man was in a cult like environment...where he was a representative of the leader of the Black Muslim Movement...

Malcolm X wasn't speak his own beliefs...he was speaking on behalf of the NOI....

This thread is about Black people that follow Malcolm X...or say they believe in Malcolm X but have conservative economic beliefs rooted in capitalism...

Someone said...well he was with the NOI so he could be fiscally conservative and I corrected them and showed them what Malcolm X actually believed...

Anybody that actually knows Malcolm X knows that he denounces the NOI, NOI's beliefs and practices...which includes capitalism and racial segregation and he becomes a revolutionary Pan Africanist

I am really tired of people misrepresenting Malcolm X to have him agree with their politics...

You got Black Nationalists, Black Liberals and Black Conservatives all trying say Malcolm X believed this and said this...instead of going to what he actually said later in his life...about his political ideology

You really want Malcolm X to be a conservative nationalist like yourself and the man himself said he was not in the end and died a revolutionary pan africanist...


Like I said before...you are arguing with Malcolm X and Malcolm X is dead...he already told you what he actually believes and denounced all that NOI believed in...and he said he was ignorant and going off what Elijah Muhammad told him because he loved him so.

What more do you want from him?

And you have point btw..

Malcolm X was a criminal for years and one day decided he wasn't gonna be a criminal anymore...people change...

He chose to follow Elijah Muhammad because his beliefs coincided. You saying "that wasn't the real Malcolm" is bullshyt. That was the real Malcolm, he simply changed his mind. He was conservative for the overwhelming majority of his time as a public black leader. Now if you want to say that he changed his mind on being a conservative a year or so before he died then that's accurate. It's not accurate to deny that Malcolm x was a conservative tho.

 

[AlainLocke]

what proof do you have the noi was reactionary? elijah m gave birth to the black power movement. elijah m changed the image of the black man woman and child. elijah m introduce veganism to the black community which the white community stole from him and now they gat a lock on veganism.

Reactionary - Wikipedia
A reactionary is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante, the previous political state of society, which they believe possessed characteristics (discipline, respect for authority, etc.) that are negatively absent from the contemporary status quo of a society. As an adjective, the word reactionary describes points of view and policies meant to restore the status quo ante.[1]

NOI believed in racial segregation and was against integration....they were reactionary nationalist..