Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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Canelo Warns Mayweather: Not Moving From 5/2, 9/12!
Posted by: Miguel Rivera on 12/2/2014 .



By Miguel Rivera

Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (44-1-1, 31KOs) has issued a warning to Floyd Mayweather Jr. (47-0, 26KOs) - that he plans to go forward with HBO fights on May 2nd and September 15th - and has no intention of stepping aside to allow Mayweather to put on shows.

Mayweather traditionally fights on the May and September dates. Canelo, tired of taking a backseat to Mayweather on the dates, left Showtime and jumped over to HBO to get first priority treatment. Mayweather has an exclusive contract with Showtime.

Canelo feels a Mexican fighter should occupy those dates, because of the deep significance that each date holds in Mexico (5/2 = Cinco De Mayo Weekend, 9/12 = Mexican Independence Day Weekend).

There are talks taking place for Canelo to face WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto on May 2, but Mayweather is also saying that he plans to fight on the date with Amir Khan being a frontrunner to face him.

"As I've said and I'll say it again - I am going to fight on May 2 and I'm not going to move [from the date]. Everything [being maneuvered] is to fight on May 2 and September 12, and I'm not going to back [away from those dates] for nothing," Canelo said during an interview with Mexico's RED FM 88.1 Radio.

#CaneloCartel....we decide what WE want to do, and you wait for our decision

 

[Newzz]

JEFF MAYWEATHER ON MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO: "FLOYD WANTED TO FIGHT PACQUIAO WHEN PACQUIAO WAS AT THE PEAK"
By Ben Thompson | December 03, 2014



"This is a time for it to happen because it's getting to a point where the public is demanding it; everybody is demanding it, and that's been the case for the last I don't know how many years, but I think at this point, it has to happen just because of the fact that both of their careers are winding down. Especially Floyd. Floyd is already committed to his career only lasting one more year and I think this is the time to do it," stated world-class trainer Jeff Mayweather, who shared his thoughts on a potential mega-fight between his nephew, undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, and 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao. According to Jeff, people are completely wrong if they think that Floyd is the one who has refused to make the fight a reality.

"The one thing is this, first of all, they keep talking about Floyd didn't want the fight. Floyd wanted to fight Pacquiao when Pacquiao was at the peak of his career. Pacquiao didn't want to take a blood test because we know what he was doing. Everybody knew what he was doing. It ain't no secret. It ain't no secret and his own coach threw him under the bus. Freddie Roach said, 'Ariza was doing this and doing that,' but you not realizing by saying that, you're basically saying your fighter was dirty. You saying that this guy was dirty, but he was the one giving stuff to your fighter, so what does that mean? That just justifies why the fight didn't happen the first time," Jeff explained during a recent conversation with FightHype's Percy Crawford. "And then he was offered $40 million the next time. He's not gonna see that kind of money nowhere else. So now all of a sudden, he's coming at Floyd because he needs help. He needs Floyd; Floyd don't need you. Floyd gonna be fine if he never fights Pacquiao."

Jeff added, "His punching power is gone now. It's gone and of course nobody is stupid as to why it's gone. Like I said, it's a fight that should happen, but at the same time, when it does happen and what happens does happen, which we all know...he should've signed the damn contract when Floyd signed the contract for the fight. It's a no-win situation for Floyd, but at the end of the day, it's what the people want and eventually Floyd gonna give the people what they want."

http://fighthype.com/news/article18659.html

 

[Black_Jesus]

Claim Ariza is giving Pac peds with no proof then sign him to a two year contract brehs

 

[Newzz]

JEFF MAYWEATHER UNIMPRESSED WITH MANNY PACQUIAO AND SHREDS CHRIS ALGIERI'S PERFORMANCE: "PACQUIAO WAS SLOPPY"
By Ben Thompson | December 02, 2014



"I mean, I thought his performance was dominant, but at the same time, who was Chris Algieri? I mean, if Floyd would have fought Chris Algieri, the whole world would have crucified him. There is a different standard. I mean, yeah, Manny Pacquiao won; he beat a guy that he should have beat, but he had no experience at all. To be honest, to me, I didn't even think the guy won the fight against Provodnikov," stated world-class trainer Jeff Mayweather, who was unimpressed with the recent performance of 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, who won a lopsided unanimous decision victory that included six knockdowns of previously undefeated WBO jr. welterweight champion Chris Algieri. According to Jeff, Algieri should have never been fighting Pacquiao in the first place and the performance of Pacquiao was nothing to get excited about.

"It's one of those situations where Manny gets credit for beating an average Joe. I mean, a guy that had one good moment in boxing, now all of a sudden, he's somebody. At the end of the day, Chris Algieri was nobody and he showed up like nobody. He showed that he didn't even belong in the same ring," Mayweather explained during a recent conversation with FightHype's Percy Crawford. "When he said he was letting him out of the cage, that was the only legitimate knockdown of the night. All of the other knockdowns that Pacquiao had, Algieri created himself because he was so scared and off balance and everything. I never seen a guy fight like that in a fight of this magnitude...Basically he dropped the ball. He didn't even give half the performance he did against Provodnikov, making Manny Pacquiao look like he was way better than he was. But at the same time, we're talking about a guy that's on an elite level and a guy that just so happened to get a gift decision to me and then happened to be in a big fight. That's what I think happened."

Mayweather added, "To be honest, I wasn't impressed with Pacquiao at all. Of course he did what he was supposed to do to a guy that didn't really have any experience and never had no big fights and just happened to be on a stage that was way too big for him. I think Pacquiao was sloppy. He missed so many punches and because of the fact that Algieri couldn't punch is why Pacquiao didn't get hurt in the fight because he got punched with the same exact right hand that he walked into when he fought Marquez that knocked him out cold."

http://fighthype.com/news/article18658.html


He DID get caught with the same punch from JMM by Algieri....Algieri just didnt have any fire power to really hurt Manny.

As far as his thoughts on Algieri and the overall fight, I agree, except I was happy Manny was actually TRYING to KO him rather than just beat him up like Rios. Algieri ran alot, and that's the only reason he survived.

 

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JEFF MAYWEATHER UNIMPRESSED WITH MANNY PACQUIAO AND SHREDS CHRIS ALGIERI'S PERFORMANCE: "PACQUIAO WAS SLOPPY"
By Ben Thompson | December 02, 2014



"I mean, I thought his performance was dominant, but at the same time, who was Chris Algieri? I mean, if Floyd would have fought Chris Algieri, the whole world would have crucified him. There is a different standard. I mean, yeah, Manny Pacquiao won; he beat a guy that he should have beat, but he had no experience at all. To be honest, to me, I didn't even think the guy won the fight against Provodnikov," stated world-class trainer Jeff Mayweather, who was unimpressed with the recent performance of 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, who won a lopsided unanimous decision victory that included six knockdowns of previously undefeated WBO jr. welterweight champion Chris Algieri. According to Jeff, Algieri should have never been fighting Pacquiao in the first place and the performance of Pacquiao was nothing to get excited about.

"It's one of those situations where Manny gets credit for beating an average Joe. I mean, a guy that had one good moment in boxing, now all of a sudden, he's somebody. At the end of the day, Chris Algieri was nobody and he showed up like nobody. He showed that he didn't even belong in the same ring," Mayweather explained during a recent conversation with FightHype's Percy Crawford. "When he said he was letting him out of the cage, that was the only legitimate knockdown of the night. All of the other knockdowns that Pacquiao had, Algieri created himself because he was so scared and off balance and everything. I never seen a guy fight like that in a fight of this magnitude...Basically he dropped the ball. He didn't even give half the performance he did against Provodnikov, making Manny Pacquiao look like he was way better than he was. But at the same time, we're talking about a guy that's on an elite level and a guy that just so happened to get a gift decision to me and then happened to be in a big fight. That's what I think happened."

Mayweather added, "To be honest, I wasn't impressed with Pacquiao at all. Of course he did what he was supposed to do to a guy that didn't really have any experience and never had no big fights and just happened to be on a stage that was way too big for him. I think Pacquiao was sloppy. He missed so many punches and because of the fact that Algieri couldn't punch is why Pacquiao didn't get hurt in the fight because he got punched with the same exact right hand that he walked into when he fought Marquez that knocked him out cold."

http://fighthype.com/news/article18658.html


He DID get caught with the same punch from JMM by Algieri....Algieri just didnt have any fire power to really hurt Manny.

As far as his thoughts on Algieri and the overall fight, I agree, except I was happy Manny was actually TRYING to KO him rather than just beat him up like Rios. Algieri ran alot, and that's the only reason he survived.

That's the game Al Haymon and Floydie over their playing... Hoard as many notable fighters as they can for Floydie to pick from.. Meanwhile Floyds still avoids Pac and Pac is left with Algieri's and Vargas/Abregus, So pac has to fight someone..

Now they can go

"hey look at Pac's opponent, If Floyd would fight them he'd get crusified"

"Hey look at Pacs ppvs over in China, he must not be a draw anymore"

Pac doesn't have anyone to fight like Floydie, who has every notable spanish fighter to exploit at his disposal to be his opponent and to put on his undercard

 

[Newzz]

That's the game Al Haymon and Floydie over their playing... Hoard as many notable fighters as they can for Floydie to pick from.. Meanwhile Floyds still avoids Pac and Pac is left with Algieri's and Vargas/Abregus, So pac has to fight someone..

Now they can go

"hey look at Pac's opponent, If Floyd would fight them he'd get crusified"

"Hey look at Pacs ppvs over in China, he must not be a draw anymore"

Pac doesn't have anyone to fight like Floydie, who has every notable spanish fighter to exploit at his disposal to be his opponent and to put on his undercard

We talked about that last year though and Pacquaio could've left TR and went to GBP when his contract was up, if he thought it was a problem (lack of legit opponents).

Instead, he made his bed, you agreed with his decision to stay at TR instead of working for himself or going to another promotional company (which is fine), but now he must finish the rest of his career fighting the Jessie Vargas'/Viktor Postols'/Chris Algieri's of the world while Floyd has all the "name brand" fighters from 140-154 available to him and to keep away from Pacquiao

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Yup you would have a lot of material if you used Judah and Chop Chop. You know, two south paws who were able to land on Floyd and hurt him.

Neither fight like Manny though breh. Chop chop fight is one of floyds best performances

 

[mr. smoke weed]

So where do you find humor in me giving him 5 rounds AND saying he loses? Can you win a 12 round fight buy winning 5 rounds you sir, are a idiot.

Multiple knockdowns breh
First time posting about boxing?

 

[GzUp]

I've gone back and fourth with manny in peds... I don't by it.

To me manny can still crack.. Was Floyd on peds cuz he also hasn't had a ko in how long?

I've read many boxers say manny doesn't hit the hardest but they just don't see the punches coming... I think manny hits hard and also comes with punches u don't see coming.

If ur interested in mannys power just look at his legs... Google his fights even back then.. He always had huge legs, that's where the power comes from.


To the article.. I feel somewhat reassured that the might happen... So It seems

 

[GzUp]

Multiple knockdowns breh
First time posting about boxing?

Sam Peter almost beat wlad with multiple knock downs .. I think he only had like three rounds

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I've gone back and fourth with manny in peds... I don't by it.

To me manny can still crack.. Was Floyd on peds cuz he also hasn't had a ko in how long?

I've read many boxers say manny doesn't hit the hardest but they just don't see the punches coming... I think manny hits hard and also comes with punches u don't see coming.

If ur interested in mannys power just look at his legs... Google his fights even back then.. He always had huge legs, that's where the power comes from.


To the article.. I feel somewhat reassured that the might happen... So It seems

theres a video where p4p TB discusses the differences in Manny and JMM's power. Says JMM is like getting hit by a truck and throbbing, whereas Manny is more precise and stinging

 

[GzUp]

If canelo cotto gets signed and Alexander beats khan, than there's a good chance we get a Floyd manny fight.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

He DID get caught with the same punch from JMM by Algieri....Algieri just didnt have any fire power to really hurt Manny.

Man Algieri was landing that overhand right to the best of his ability, if he had anything resembling pop he would have really sparked manny.
But manny fights best when he gets caught, its like it forces him to step his game up.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Man Algieri was landing that overhand right to the best of his ability, if he had anything resembling pop he would have really sparked manny.
But manny fights best when he gets caught, its like it forces him to step his game up.

At a certain point Manny was just like "fukk defense" and didn't even care to avoid those pillows that Algieri was throwing because they had no power on them.

 

[GzUp]

Manny has been getting hit with that right hand his whole career.

The right hand that Marquez landed was different.

There's recent video of Marquez telling Floyd to stop using his ko.. That he should go do it.. I would post it but it's in Spanish.

Here's a espn article.

Juan Manuel Marquez blasts Mayweather: “Floyd needs to stop mocking Pacquiao and just take the fight!”


Juan Manuel Marquez weighs in on the verbal cold war between superstars Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao as rumours continue to circulate the two titans may finally meet in the ring in 2015.


The biggest fight of all time is still being bantered about in the weeks since Manny Pacquiao defeated Chris Algieri. A fight between the Filipino superstar and the legendary Floyd Mayweather Jr. (that’s been several years in the making) has been hinted at by both sides but the two men have mostly been preoccupied verbally sparring on social media. Mayweather attacked Pacquiao a week ago, posting a looped video of him being knocked down by Juan Manuel Marquez in a fight Pacquiao lost by KO in 2012. The ‘Pacman’ responded by taunting that “TBE” (a moniker of “The Best Ever” Floyd has given himself) stands for “The Best Excuses”. This week, none other than Juan Manuel Marquez weighed in, giving his thoughts in an interview on ESPN Deportes:

“People will blame Mayweather if the Pacquiao fight does not happen,” Marquez told ESPN. “If Floyd wants to be known as the best fighter ever, he needs to demonstrate it by taking this fight and beating the man who was considered the pound for pound best for many years in Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather needs to stop posting videos and pictures on social media mocking Pacquiao and just take the fight. After the fight he can say whatever he wants but until then, the most important thing is accepting the fight!”