Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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At the end of the day Shane took the test
Shane had nonchoice but to take the test since he had already been linked to steroids, unlike Manny
Floyd never was less than pac ever at anything,
:heh:
In 2009 and 2011 he clearly was

2009 negotiations
Floyd vs Marquez
The return of welterweight Floyd Mayweather Jr., who easily outpointed Juan Manuel Marquez after 21 months in retirement last Saturday at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, generated an astonishing 1 million pay-per-view buys, HBO announced Friday.
http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=4502922&src=desktop

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
MGM, Golden Boy, PPV

09/19/09

12,009 people in attendance

$ 6,865,250.00 Gross Sales

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/
Pac vs Cotto
The Top Rank-promoted fight generated 1.25 million buys and $70 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, HBO announced Friday. If historical trends hold, the numbers will increase when all of the buys are officially audited.

The 1.25 million buys, the most for a boxing pay-per-view this year, came from 650,000 from cable homes and 600,000 from satellite services.

http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=4674275&src=desktop
EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. MIGUEL ANGEL COTTO
MGM, Golden Boy, Top Rank, PPV

11/14/09

15,470 in attendance

$ 8,847,550.00 Gross sales
2011 negotiations
Floyd vs Ortiz
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fourth-round knockout of Victor Ortiz to reclaim a welterweight title on Sept. 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas generated1.25 million buys and $78.44 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, Golden Boy Promotions announced Friday.
http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=7160303&src=desktop

FLOYD MAYWEATHER vs. VICTOR ORTIZ
MGM, Golden Boy, PPV

09/17/11

13,364 in attendance

$ 9,000,000.00 gross sales


http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/
Pac vs Marquez (3rd meeting)
Pacquiao-Marquez III generated $11.6 million in ticket sales and 1.4 million pay-per-view buys.
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=8036150&wjb=&pg=1&lang=ES

EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ III
MGM, Top Rank, PPV

15,498 in attendance

$ 11,648,300.00 gross sales
http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/:umad:

Floyd never lost, only belt pac had was that worthless WBO belt, and he didn't even fight any other champions,
having the WBO belt is better than having no belt at all like Floyd at the time.. Cotto was a champion when Pac beat him.. Floyd never unified any ww belts until Maidana years later..
never made any where near the amount Floyd made, so he had no leverage this is a business, cash is king
Its not about how much money Floyd made when determining leverage.. Its about how much REVENUE the two were bringing in.. Manny was bringing in MORE REVENUE than Floyd was during the 1st two negotiations 09 and 2011
 
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Shane had nonchoice but to take the test since he had already been linked to steroids, unlike Manny

:heh:
In 2009 and 2011 he clearly was

2009 negotiations
Floyd vs Marquez
The return of welterweight Floyd Mayweather Jr., who easily outpointed Juan Manuel Marquez after 21 months in retirement last Saturday at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, generated an astonishing 1 million pay-per-view buys, HBO announced Friday.
http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=4502922&src=desktop

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
MGM, Golden Boy, PPV

09/19/09

12,009 people in attendance

$ 6,865,250.00 Gross Sales

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/
Pac vs Cotto
The Top Rank-promoted fight generated 1.25 million buys and $70 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, HBO announced Friday. If historical trends hold, the numbers will increase when all of the buys are officially audited.

The 1.25 million buys, the most for a boxing pay-per-view this year, came from 650,000 from cable homes and 600,000 from satellite services.

http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=4674275&src=desktop
EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. MIGUEL ANGEL COTTO
MGM, Golden Boy, Top Rank, PPV

11/14/09

15,470 in attendance

$ 8,847,550.00 Gross sales
2011 negotiations
Floyd vs Ortiz
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fourth-round knockout of Victor Ortiz to reclaim a welterweight title on Sept. 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas generated1.25 million buys and $78.44 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, Golden Boy Promotions announced Friday.
http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=7160303&src=desktop

FLOYD MAYWEATHER vs. VICTOR ORTIZ
MGM, Golden Boy, PPV

09/17/11

13,364 in attendance

$ 9,000,000.00 gross sales


http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/
Pac vs Marquez (3rd meeting)
Pacquiao-Marquez III generated $11.6 million in ticket sales and 1.4 million pay-per-view buys.
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=8036150&wjb=&pg=1&lang=ES

EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ III
MGM, Top Rank, PPV

15,498 in attendance

$ 11,648,300.00 gross sales
http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/:umad:

having the WBO belt is better than having no belt at all like Floyd at the time.. Cotto was a champion when Pac beat him.. Floyd never unified any ww belts until Maidana years later..
Its not about how much money Floyd made when determining leverage.. Its about how much REVENUE the two were bringing in.. Manny was bringing in MORE REVENUE than Floyd was during the 1st two negotiations 09 and 2011

First off those numbers are wrong off the bat, Floyd and Marquez did more than 1 million buys, I'm not even reading the rest of this shyt

also Floyd made more money fighting Ricky Hatton than Manny has made period

take this WOAT banner of me and but it on this dumb ass nikka this is ridiculous

Manny and Cotto did the same numbers as Victor Ortiz and Floyd lol

the highest Manny ever did was Marquez III at 1.45, only common opponent they had that many did more buys

and since when does belts have to do with MONEY and NEGOTIATIONS

Wilder got paid more than Stirverne and he wasn't the champion

Cotto was the A side against Sergio and he Martinez was the champion
 
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First off those numbers are wrong off the bat, Floyd and Marquez did more than 1 million buys, I'm not even reading the rest of this shyt

also Floyd made more money fighting Ricky Hatton than Manny has made period

take this WOAT banner of me and but it on this dumb ass nikka this is ridiculous

Manny and Cotto did the same numbers as Victor Ortiz and Floyd lol
The numbers are wrong yet you cant even provide the right numbers?? :ohhh:

nah you the WOAT poster of the ring, own that pink title bytch nikka,

Floyd mayweather made more against Hatton than Pac has made period?? prove it.. ill wait :mjlol:
 
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The numbers are wrong yet you cant even provide the right numbers?? :ohhh:

nah you the WOAT poster of the ring, own that pink title bytch nikka,

Floyd mayweather made more against Hatton than Pac has made period?? prove it.. ill wait :mjlol:

He did 1.12 against Marquez

Floyd's purse against Hatton is more than Manny has made fighting anyone that's a fact
 

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Floyd made 11 million guaranteed against Ricky Hatton...Manny Pacquiao was guaranteed 26 million to fight Timothy Bradley in the 1st fight, so the whole "Floyd made more against Hatton than Pacquiao has made fighting anyone" is false.

Secondly, Floyd was 2nd to Pacquiao in 2009 and 2011 as far as PPV Buys go. It's inarguable, because it's fact.
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
just google many makes a fraction of Mayweather's pursues, I got shyt to prove to your dumb ass

you mans turned down 40 million lol, that nikka going be giving a ryu rides on the ferry in macau after his career is over
You cant prove anything and as usual you're moving goal posts..

You claimed Floyd/Marquez sold 1.2 million ppv buys.. Prove it :mjpls:

You claimed Floyd's purse vs Hatton is more than Manny made period and I keep trying to explain to you that it wouldn't make a difference if Pac made 0$. His fights on 09 and 11 brought in more revenue than Floyds fights in 09 and 11..Simple facts that you cant refute :ahh:
 
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You cant prove anything and as usual you're moving goal posts..

You claimed Floyd/Marquez sold 1.2 million ppv buys.. Prove it :mjpls:

You claimed Floyd's purse vs Hatton is more than Manny made period and I keep trying to explain to you that it wouldn't make a difference if Pac made 0$. His fights on 09 and 11 brought in more revenue than Floyds fights in 09 and 11..Simple facts that you cant refute :ahh:

The numbers are on Floyd's Wikipedia and on the bleacher report and all over the internet, stop it

Once again it's public information, what fight I 11 brought in more revenue than Floyd's

marquez 3 is the only pac fight to do 1.4

they didn't bring in more revenue stop it, even if they did for arguments sake, what does that have to do with manny' sake

most manny made was 15 million against margarita

Floyd made 58 million fighting Oscar and has never made under 30 million ever since

his business is structure differently
 

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it dont matter what Floyd did Two years prior to the 09 negotiations. In 2009 more people were perchasing ppv to see Pacquiao than Mayweather. On 2009 More people bought tickets to the Pacquiao fight than Floyd Mayweather. Same with in 2011...

How does it not matter? When vs same opponent, Mayweather sells more whether before or after Pac has fought them?
 

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Floyd made 11 million guaranteed against Ricky Hatton...Manny Pacquiao was guaranteed 26 million to fight Timothy Bradley in the 1st fight, so the whole "Floyd made more against Hatton than Pacquiao has made fighting anyone" is false.

Secondly, Floyd was 2nd to Pacquiao in 2009 and 2011 as far as PPV Buys go. It's inarguable, because it's fact.

Pacquiao's guarantee and his purse are two different things.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Timothy_Bradley_(1st_meeting)
Pacquiao was guaranteed $26 million by Top Rank promoter Bob Arum. His check on the night of the fight was for $6 million, and he received a portion of the pay-per-view buys. Bradley's purse was a career-high $5 million, and he also received a portion of the pay-per-view buys. [2]
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
The numbers are on Floyd's Wikipedia and on the bleacher report and all over the internet, stop it

Once again it's public information, what fight I 11 brought in more revenue than Floyd's

marquez 3 is the only pac fight to do 1.4

they didn't bring in more revenue stop it, even if they did for arguments sake, what does that have to do with manny' sake

most manny made was 15 million against margarita

Floyd made 58 million fighting Oscar and has never made under 30 million ever since

his business is structure differently
:mjlol:
And this is why you're considered thering WPOAT.. everything you posted is 100% wrong. Which is why you cant link any of the bullshyt you posted to an actual source besided from your ass..

:dead: at Floyd making $52 million to fight Oscar.. I would say provide us with a link but I know you wont
 
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And this is why you're considered thering WPOAT.. everything you posted is 100% wrong. Which is why you cant link any of the bullshyt you posted to an actual source besided from your ass..

:dead: at Floyd making $52 million to fight Oscar.. I would say provide us with a link but I know you wont

Mayweather's purse was 25 million then you add the back end and TV rights you morn

I'm writing a paper I don't have time to google for you, but you can look it for it yourself

either way you slice many has never made close to mayweather, he doesn't control the event to get that real bread

also in 09 many didn't want to take the drug test

you talk about the same things over and over again, I forget your retarded you need this worst POSTER BANNER, that's why this forum is a joke
 

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How does it not matter? When vs same opponent, Mayweather sells more whether before or after Pac has fought them?
its dumb logic thats why... and the fact that Pac/Marquez 3 and 4 both did more than Floyd/Marquez kills your unprovable theory

If Floyd/Marquez were to fight today, it would most likely do much more than it did in 09, because back in 09 Floyds draw wasn't as big as it now since he had retired for two years prior to that fight..

Back in 2009, Pacquiao was #1 p4p at the time and he was the bigger draw back then, the numbers i posted support that... 2011 as well...

Bottomline its silly to compare floyds draw vs Shane coming off a great win vs Margarito in 2010 vs Pacquiao/Shane coming off a loss and a draw in 2011.. obviously the Pac/Shane fight will have less interest
 
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