Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[firemanBk]

Nah breh. I gotta disagree with this.

Manny was a star and on PPV before . He was well known in the Boxing world for his wars with Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

Casuals didn't know him until he fought DLH just like Floyd. Hardcore fans knew the lil Filipino was a monster already.

Yup
Pac became a headliner after giving Barrera the beats. He became a megastar after he whooped on Oscar.

 

[Dr. Acula]

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By Rick Reeno

Stephen Espinoza, the head of Showtime Sports, strongly informed BoxingScene.com that Top Rank's CEO, Bob Arum, has "misrepresented" the current status of the ongoing negotiations to make a mega-fight pay-per-view between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. The target date, at the moment, is May 2nd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

After reading some of the recently published stories on BoxingScene, Espinoza wanted to 'set the record' straight regarding some of the statements that were made by Arum, who promotes Pacquiao. Showtime has an exclusive multi-fight agreement with Mayweather.

In an earlier article, Arum claimed that everyone involved (HBO, Showtime, CBS, Al Haymon, Pacquiao, Top Rank) are on board with the deal - and that Mayweather himself is the only person holding up the fight from being a finalized item.

"This is something that is totally strange. There is one guy to blame. And that's Floyd Mayweather. Everybody involved wants this fight, just like the fans. We've signed off on every point. We've agreed to everything. But push comes to shove, there's one guy to blame," Arum told The Denver Post.

Espinoza denies that a deal was reached between Showtime, CBS, HBO and Haymon. He also denied the existence of any contract that Mayweather has allegedly refused to sign. He does confirm that all parties are still working hard to hammer out an agreement.

"Floyd isn't holding anything up. Nobody is waiting on Floyd for anything. Arum isn't being truthful and he knows it. There is no contract that is awaiting Floyd's signature and Bob Arum knows that too. Floyd has been absolutely clear with us throughout this process - he wants to fight Manny Pacquiao. He has repeatedly told [CBS CEO] Leslie Moonves, Al Haymon and me - that he wants us to make the fight and that's what we've been working for, for weeks," Espinoza explained to BoxingScene.com.

"We've made good progress but there are still open issues that need to be resolved. There is no agreement or closed deal or contracts. Neither CBS or Showtime or Al Haymon or HBO for that matter have agreed on the deal terms. We are still trying to resolve the issues. That's what's taking time....not any delay or impediment by Floyd. No one is waiting on Floyd for anything. For Arum to say otherwise is an outright misrepresentation."

"It makes you wonder. When you hear these types of misrepresentations....someone who wants to make a deal doesn't go out and publicly misrepresent the status of the negotiations. Maybe Floyd and [Alex] Ariza are right - maybe Bob Arum is going to be the reason this fight doesn't happen. If he continues to misrepresent and mischaracterize the status of the negotiations, he may end up killing the deal."

Yeah honestly this back and forth bickering in the media doesn't make sense to me. Floyd has outright said many times he doesn't mind fighting manny now.

 

[onelastdeath]

Man these a$$holes really ruined this generation.

 

[onelastdeath]

keep trolling breh, meanwhile you cant refute my claims that Pac was outselling Floyd in ppvs and ticket sales during the years of the first two negotiations.

When has Manny ever outsold Floyd

 

[Black_Jesus]

When has Manny ever outsold Floyd

In 2009 Pac/Cotto outsold Floyd/Marquez in ppv buys and ticket sales.. This was right before their first negotiations

And in 2011 Pac/Marquez(3rd meeting) outsold Floyd/Ortiz in ppv and ticket sales... This was around the 2nd negotiations where Floyd thought he could dictate Manny's purse

 

[Suspicious Dingo]

In 2009 Pac/Cotto outsold Floyd/Marquez in ppv buys and ticket sales.. This was right before their first negotiations

And in 2011 Pac/Marquez(3rd meeting) outsold Floyd/Ortiz in ppv and ticket sales... This was around the 2nd negotiations where Floyd thought he could dictate Manny's purse

Links or

 

[THE MACHINE]

Lets be real, everybody is confused

 

[Black_Jesus]

Links or

2009 negotiations
Floyd vs Marquez
The return of welterweight Floyd Mayweather Jr., who easily outpointed Juan Manuel Marquez after 21 months in retirement last Saturday at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, generated an astonishing 1 million pay-per-view buys, HBO announced Friday.
http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=4502922&src=desktop

FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
MGM, Golden Boy, PPV

09/19/09

12,009 people in attendance

$ 6,865,250.00 Gross Sales

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/
Pac vs Cotto
The Top Rank-promoted fight generated 1.25 million buys and $70 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, HBO announced Friday. If historical trends hold, the numbers will increase when all of the buys are officially audited.

The 1.25 million buys, the most for a boxing pay-per-view this year, came from 650,000 from cable homes and 600,000 from satellite services.
http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=4674275&src=desktop
EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. MIGUEL ANGEL COTTO
MGM, Golden Boy, Top Rank, PPV

11/14/09

15,470 in attendance

$ 8,847,550.00 Gross sales


2011 negotiations
Floyd vs Ortiz
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s fourth-round knockout of Victor Ortiz to reclaim a welterweight title on Sept. 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas generated 1.25 million buys and $78.44 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, Golden Boy Promotions announced Friday.
http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=7160303&src=desktop

FLOYD MAYWEATHER vs. VICTOR ORTIZ
MGM, Golden Boy, PPV

09/17/11

13,364 in attendance

$ 9,000,000.00 gross sales

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/
Pac vs Marquez (3rd meeting)
Pacquiao-Marquez III generated $11.6 million in ticket sales and 1.4 million pay-per-view buys.
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=8036150&wjb=&pg=1&lang=ES

EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ III
MGM, Top Rank, PPV

15,498 in attendance

$ 11,648,300.00 gross sales
http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/

 

[Suspicious Dingo]

You appear to have called my bluff. Well played

 

[Black_Jesus]

You appear to have called my bluff. Well played

why yall make me have to do this?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

An undefeated (at the time) black man beat Manny Pacquiao....and nobody was running around screaming "Bradleeeeeeeyyyyyy!!!!". His biggest and ONLY fan on a website site filled with black dudes is a white guy

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That white guys is smooth though

 

[Suspicious Dingo]

why yall make me have to do this?

Do what, provide evidence to back up your statements? That should be a pre-requisite IMO

 

[Black_Jesus]

Do what, provide evidence to back up your statements? That should be a pre-requisite IMO

Its like the 3rd or 4th time Ive had to post it... floyd stans be in some type of denial about who was A side in the first two negotiations. Very strange

 

[So-Chi]

Nah breh. I gotta disagree with this.

Manny was a star and on PPV before . He was well known in the Boxing world for his wars with Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

Casuals didn't know him until he fought DLH just like Floyd. Hardcore fans knew the lil Filipino was a monster already.

That's kinda my point though, casuals knowing him made him a draw/superstar. AFTER De La Hoya who also made Floyd a star, but Floyd was a star and the A side before Pac.

 

[So-Chi]

Casuals

Say what you will, but no one was asking about a Floyd vs. Pac fight before Pac fought Hatton like I said.