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Age does matter, especially since one of them is a center and the other is a PF, and most importantly one of them is a generational player and the other isn't.

He had a 27/11 game a few days ago, you were probably complaining that it wasn't a 30/15 game.

Nah i said it was Phoenix who has no size and plays soft in the paint and i said why doesnt he do that every night and then i realized well cuz he dont play soft ass phoenix every night,if hes playing elite centers hes much rather fold up and scream like boozer when he loses the ball at his knees because of his indecisveness...
 

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Jonas is 22 and moves like he's 38. How does that happen? Night and day from his rookie year to now. @Malta stop looking at numbers and watch him play. He's slow footed, can't rebound in traffic, looks awkward in the post and has no moves. Take a drink every time he pump fakes. You won't make it past the first Q. His vertical has decreased. His numbers can get better with touches but does that mean he's improved? How many bigs that aren't fluid offensively(like a Gasol) develop that over time? I'm guessing not many. You compared him to Noah? Noah doesn't let Jordan Hill look like Shaq.


No, I won't stop looking at numbers, because they are completely unbiased and the fact of the matter his numbers are the same as the guys on the other top 10 defensive teams. I don't care how fluid he moves around, I've seen him play many times and I know what I'm watching is a solid interior defender. No where have I said he was good or great at it, but he's solid especially for his age.

I don't drink :mjpls:
 

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Kanter is AWFUL at protecting the rim, teams are shooting almost 60% at the rim vs him, you think Jonas is bad, Kanter makes him look like prime Ben Wallace.

Kanter with a defensive rim prtoector im ok....right now our rim protector is Amir Johnson while our 5 stands in the paint like lady liberty while cats 2 step around him for layups...
 

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Kanter with a defensive rim prtoector im ok....right now our rim protector is Amir Johnson while our 5 stands in the paint like lady liberty while cats 2 step around him for layups...


Kanter plays with Favors and manages to give up 60% at the rim, maybe you should watch Enes and appreciate what you have with Jonas, cause if that's the trade you want to make the Raptors will be AWFUL.

Kanter is on the same level as Kevin Love when it comes to protecting the paint.....
 

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No, I won't stop looking at numbers, because they are completely unbiased and the fact of the matter his numbers are the same as the guys on the other top 10 defensive teams. I don't care how fluid he moves around, I've seen him play many times and I know what I'm watching is a solid interior defender. No where have I said he was good or great at it, but he's solid especially for his age.

I don't drink :mjpls:

Same stats said Brook Lopez was the leagues 5th best player 2 years ago :mjlol::mjlol:
 

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Same stats said Brook Lopez was the leagues 5th best player 2 years ago :mjlol::mjlol:


Nope, wrong stats :mjpls:

I haven't mentioned PER, I'm talking about what players shoot vs guys at the rim. He falls right in line with guys who are considered good rim protectors, but somehow he's the outlier in that group...right.
 

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Kanter plays with Favors and manages to give up 60% at the rim, maybe you should watch Enes and appreciate what you have with Jonas, cause if that's the trade you want to make the Raptors will be AWFUL.

Kanter is on the same level as Kevin Love when it comes to protecting the paint.....

Dont be stupid man i dont want kanter,im making a point about how mediocre Val is...
 

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Dont be stupid man i dont want kanter,im making a point about how mediocre Val is...

Nah, Kanter is horrific defending the paint the comparison is pretty bad :yeshrug:

Those stats alone are not reliable...

Nah, they are very reliable, more reliable than what's backing up your argument.
 

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Nah, Kanter is horrific defending the paint the comparison is pretty bad :yeshrug:



Nah, they are very reliable, more reliable than what's backing up your argument.

Why doesnt he play in 4th quarters down the stretch of games ? Why does he get yanked so often ? Do you think Casey is a bad coach who doesnt know what hes doing and this team is somehow a top 10 defense despite his decision making ?
 

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Jonas is nearing Bargnani status. Trade him before he goes full il mago.
 

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Why doesnt he play in 4th quarters down the stretch of games ? Why does he get yanked so often ? Do you think Casey is a bad coach who doesnt know what hes doing and this team is somehow a top 10 defense despite his decision making ?


I don't think Casey is a great coach, so you're asking a :yeshrug: question.
 
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