Filibuster Reform in the U.S. Senate

[BaltimoreTwilightMarauder]

They need to do this NOW

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Republicans don't want the filibuster to go because it saves them from themselves. Their platform is so massively unpopular outside their die-hard base that trying to pass whatever they wanted would immediately backfire on them.

The only thing they want to do that they can get away with is tax cuts for the rich and adding far-right lunatics to the court, both of which they can do with a simple majority.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I read an article that Moscow Mitch said he'll go "scorched earth" if Democrats did this:

In his Monday floor speech, Durbin argued that if opposition members wanted to use the tool to their advantage, it should be difficult for them to do so.

“If a senator insists on blocking the will of the Senate, he [or she] should have to pay some minimal price of being present. No more phoning it in. If your principles are that important, stand up for them, speak your mind, hold the floor, and show your resolve,” the 76-year-old lawmaker said, adding that he supported discussing “any proposal that ends the misuse of the filibuster.”

“If the Senate retains the filibuster, we must change the rules so that a senator who wants to bring our government to a standstill endures — at least — some discomfort in the process. We need new rules that actually promote debate.”

How is this guy still in the Senate?

 

[winb83]

So you've fallen for McConnell's fear-mongering.

The Democrats are going to lose the Senate if they don't pass anything substantial, especially the voting rights bills. Basically, McConnell indirectly controls the senate, due to the filibuster.

The democrats will lose the senate anyway. The group of voters and the politicians themselves aren't unified. Say what you will of republicans but their voters are passionate and unified and they'll do whatever it takes to win. Republicans will vote for a candidate they don't like if it can get their policies through. If the democrats put forth an unlikable candidate their voters will just stay home. See the 2016 election. Democratic voters would give up the supreme court if it meant voting for someone that didn't excite them. Republican voters would vote for whoever would give them the supreme court regardless.

 

[King Static X]

I read an article that Moscow Mitch said he'll go "scorched earth" if Democrats did this:



How is this guy still in the Senate?

There's nothing wrong with what he said. He said in that article that the filibuster should be eliminated but if it's not removed then they should make it harder for the minority (currently Republicans) to filibuster.

 

[mastermind]

The democrats will lose the senate anyway. The group of voters and the politicians themselves aren't unified. Say what you will of republicans but their voters are passionate and unified and they'll do whatever it takes to win. Republicans will vote for a candidate they don't like if it can get their policies through. If the democrats put forth an unlikable candidate their voters will just stay home. See the 2016 election. Democratic voters would give up the supreme court if it meant voting for someone that didn't excite them. Republican voters would vote for whoever would give them the supreme court regardless.

That’s cool.

So you start passing stuff that people like. Dems tend not to do that. And when they do, they don’t celebrate it.

 

[the cac mamba]

i was indifferent at first, but watching that fakkit turtle lay out "his platform" convinced me

axe it and dare the repubs to push their 33 percent agenda i dont see what there is to lose

these southern white women need planned parenthood they dont have the fukkin balls to get rid of it

 

[FAH1223]

 

[winb83]

That’s cool.

So you start passing stuff that people like. Dems tend not to do that. And when they do, they don’t celebrate it.

When the democrats remove the filibuster they will pay the price just like when Harry Reid did it for judicial nominees. It might look cool now but they’ll pay the price long term.

 

[winb83]

He is a fool. The republican party has for decades existed by getting voters to vote against their own self interest with little to no accountability. It hasn’t changed and it won’t. These people aren’t going to suddenly wake up out of this fog and demand that party do anything for them.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

He is a fool. The republican party has for decades existed by getting voters to vote against their own self interest with little to no accountability. It hasn’t changed and it won’t. These people aren’t going to suddenly wake up out of this fog and demand that party do anything for them.

I had no idea the talking filibuster went away. But yeah, they definitely need to bring that back. fukk Moscow Mitch's complaining.

Now nuking the filibuster.... yeah, I don't think they wanna do that. There's a 80% chance GOP takes back the Senate in 2022.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

There's nothing wrong with what he said. He said in that article that the filibuster should be eliminated but if it's not removed then they should make it harder for the minority (currently Republicans) to filibuster.

I agree. The talking filibuster should be put back. But again, how is Moscow Mitch still in the Senate? Disgusting.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[King Static X]

 

[AquaCityBoy]

There is no evidence that is going to backfire. Democrats are just some hoes.