Federal Employees, how ya'll feeling?

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she needs to consult an attorney


Yes asap!

We've been told to cancel all meetings or dealings with our directors today. They've stopped all work processes to prepare appeals for the three probationary coworkers we had

I hope it helps but sadly I don't think it'll matter
 
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this ain't the movies man. they probably hoping someone tries something with musk or some other crakkka in government to make an example out of them. don't forget trump is in office. fukk around and have them folks trying to give you 10 years saying you made some kinda threat.

Some things are worth dying over.

This is the frog being slowly cooked in a pot.
This foreign South African billionaire is talking about government efficiency, negatively impacting hundreds of thousands of Americans.

When is enough enough?

Bro was taking questions in the Oval Office in casual clothing. Bro is sending a message testing the waters yet again but people are not seeing it.
 

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:wow: Sending positive vibes to all the Feds, especially the ones that post on here. The probationary folks getting let go is really dark - didn't expect that one to happen.
Btw, this reply will also be to those who take time to read it:

I guess it really is dark for those whose tenure status were "Career", then transferred to another agency for a new position. From what I remember, you earn "Career" status after your one-year probation period is over...or maybe it's three years. I once resigned from the federal government after 9 years, to work in the private sector towards my first IT job, then came back in the federal government 8 months later under a different agency, as an intern, with a different position. When I came back in, my tenure status on my SF-50 still read "Career", like it read when I left. Although this new agency hired me, along with the rest of the new interns (who were much younger than me) under a one-year probationary period, I don't think the "Probationary" status really applied to me...I could be wrong. But I carried it as though it did regardless. Then only a few months after I started, they relocated me to a different building further away, still under the same agency. These were older employees, much closer to retirement. In fact, I replaced one, who was kinda forced out because of a medical condition, although he was 52, and had a heart attack before. He was an older White man, who they kept suggesting should retire, and move South...but he didn't want to. I guess he finally did.

To tie this all in, when I came back in the federal government under that new agency, I think I was eventually relocated to that different building because my tenure on my SF-50 read "Career", and they couldn't get rid of me easily, like they could the rest of the interns. So I may have endured all that panicking for nothing. But then again, I did have to wait for my Top Secret Security Clearance to clear...a Top Secret/ SCI Security Clearance at that. FF to today, anybody who transferred to a new agency, then got fired, after they had at least 3 years of federal service, should have a chance to win their job back, especially if their new SF-50 reads "Career", under their tenure status. I don't think they're allowed to change your tenure status just because you transferred to another agency, especially if you never even resigned. But I never worked in OPM, so I'm not sure.

Personally, there's no way I would transfer as a "Career" status federal employee, to another federal agency as a "Probationary" status federal employee. But then again, I guess I did something much riskier when I resigned from the federal government back then, to work in the private sector towards that first IT job...that laid me off three months later for no reason btw. But I had just graduated from college with an IT degree, and tried to get some IT experience, and caught the first plane smoking. However, I dIdn't know it was that toxic out there in the office job environment. I thought I had arrived, but found out later I had much more security as a federal guard. Anyway, if the federal government brought me back in under "Career" status, after I had actually resigned, then it seems like anybody who only transferred to another agency, would keep their "Career" status, and wouldn't be officially placed back in a "Probationary" status. But like I said, I never worked in OPM. So I don't know if they were required to keep me under a "Career" status when I came back in, or not. But it's sure worth looking in to, for people who've been terminated recently, after they transferred to another agency under a "Probationary" status, even though they already had over 3 years of federal service. I'd began by checking my SF-50. Anyway, after what I experienced, I would never voluntarily go from a federal "Career" status employee down to a federal "Probationary" status employee, even if the probation period was for only one year, and I was transferring to an agency paying more money, to a position with a better job title.
 
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Also, if you’re at risk, follow this and don’t let them fukk you over:

Get everything in writing - do not exit until you have a document JUST for you detailing your vacation days, sick days, and any other payouts in contract form. Don't go till you have an exit interview with HR set up. Make them OWN this.
 

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I left out a crazy part in my story above. There was this crazy married sister who worked with me on that federal guard force, about the same age as me, and who kinda liked me. When she found out I was leaving, and going to the private sector, her exact words to me were, "They gonna fire your ass!". I didn't know that she was serious...or that she'd be right. It turned out she was both :ohhh:
 
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Btw, this reply will also be to those who take time to read it:

I guess it really is dark for those whose tenure status were "Career", then transferred to another agency for a new position. From what I remember, you earn "Career" status after your one-year probation period is over...or maybe it's three years. I once resigned from the federal government after 9 years, then came back in the federal government 8 months later under a different agency, as an intern, with a different position. When I came back in, my tenure status on my SF-50 still read "Career", like it read when I left. Although they hired me, and the rest of the new interns (who were much younger than me) under a one-year probationary period, I don't think the "Probationary" status really applied to me...I could be wrong. But I carried it as though it did regardless. Then only a few months after I started, they relocated me to a different building further away, still under the same agency. These were older employees, much closer to retirement. In fact, I replaced one, who was kinda forced out because of a medical condition, although he was 52, and had a heart attack before. He was an older White man, who they kept suggesting should retire, and move South...but he didn't want to. I guess he finally did.

To tie this all in, when I came back in the federal government under that different agency, I think I was eventually relocated to that different building, because my tenure on my SF-50 read "Career", and they couldn't get rid of me easily, like they could the rest of the interns. So I may have endured all that panicking for nothing. But then again, I did have to wait for my top security clearance to clear...an SCI at that. FF to today, anybody who transferred to a new agency, then got fired, after they had at least 3 years of federal service, should have a chance to win their job back, especially if their new SF-50 reads "Career", under their tenure status. I don't think they're allowed to change that status. But I never worked in OPM, so I'm not sure.

Personally, there's no way I would transfer as a "Career" status federal employee, to another federal agency under a "Probationary" status. But then again, I guess I had done something much riskier when I resigned from the federal government that time, to work in the private sector as an IT professional...so they could lay me off three months later for no reason. But I had just graduated from college with an IT degree, and tried to get some IT experience, and caught the first plane smoking. However, I dIdn't know it was that toxic out there in the office job environment. I thought I had arrived, but found out later I had much more security as a federal guard. Anyway, if the federal government brought me back in under "Career" status, after I had actually resigned, then it seems like anybody who only transferred to another agency, would keep their "Career" status, and wouldn't be officially placed back on a "Probationary" status. Then again, I never worked in OPM. So I don't know if they were required to keep me under a "Career" status when I came back in, or not. But it's sure worth looking in to, for people who've been terminated recently, after they transferred to another agency under a "Probationary" status, even though they already had over 3 years of federal service. I'd began by checking my SF-50. Anyway, after what I experienced, I would never voluntarily go from a federal "Career" employee to a federal "Probationary" employee, even if I was transferring to an agency paying more money, with a better career.
From what little I remember as a contractor I think probationary status is a different designation on the SF50. This reddit post below talks about it. But you couldn't pay me to work for the Federal Government again in no capacity.


 

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U think it could be? Like is ur department necessary? U on probation or do a shyt job? If not u good breh!

I’m not a federal employee, I’m a contractor. I work directly for a government agency, but I’m employed via a contract. DOGE is going through each of the contacts and cancelling those they don’t think are necessary. Has nothing to do with performance or with being on probation.

They’re taking a heavy hand to all agencies if it ain’t DoD or national security. I work in IT project management for a huge agency that isnt either of them. The chief and deputy chief of my office are taking the early retirement, peacing out by the end of this month. A headless department feels real vulnerable rn
 
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I've been hearing more stories about "career" government employees who switched over to new positions, then became "career conditional" government employees all over again...aka probation period employees, then recently getting laid off. Again, I would have never agreed to go from "career" to "career conditional", unless they were about to put me on a PIP...which they eventually did. But with "All Thanks to The Most High", I had a much better outcome, after I got out of there.

I remember about a year or two before they put me on that PIP, something they've been threatening me with for over two years, I applied for a position with the Social Security Administration. The brother who interviewed me, said he would let me work there for a few months, to see how I worked out. He never heard from me again. I already had 17 years in. Now if they worked it out with my old agency, to let me return if things didn't work out, then it would have been no problem. Like I already had my head on the chopping block. So I guess that brother was offering me a "career conditional" position, which meant I was going to be back on probation. To make it worst, he was only giving me a couple of months, instead of a year, like most "career conditional" employees get.

Maybe these government workers who recently agreed to go from "career" to "career conditional", didn't realize they were totally jeopardizing their "career" status. Or maybe they knew the risk, and this is the norm. When I was offered that short stint at the Social Security Administration over 20 years ago, nothing felt normal about risking my "career" status however, especially with all the years I had. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.

On another note, I understand a lot of government employees in the DMV have sold their homes within the last 7 days behind all of this, and many more put their homes on the market. They are also expecting to see a lot of foreclosures up there pretty soon. I sure hope my nephew and his wife don't get caught up in this, as they both have government jobs, and were doing everything right. They have a house and two children. Neither of them are on probation, but like the rest of the federal government, of course they are concerned. They don't deserve this.

With all these folks in the DMV selling their homes, a lot of them may be heading South with me, especially if they can land a job down here. If that's the case, at least these people coming down will have some sense, unlike the ones whom came down a few years after I did. Then again, it may not be necessary these days, because unlike when I was about to lose my job, you can practically become a millionaire on the internet, or at least do uber or lyft. Anyway, this home selling thing in the DMV is grounds for another topic. Maybe somebody already started a thread on this. I guess they really are tryna make PG White again.
 
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I've been hearing more stories about "career" government employees who switched over to new positions, then became "career conditional" government employees all over again...aka probation period employees, then recently getting laid off. Again, I would have never agreed to go from "career" to "career conditional", unless they were about to put me on a PIP...which they eventually did. But with "All Thanks to The Most High", I had a much better outcome, after I got out of there.

I remember about a year or two before they put me on that PIP, something they've been threatening me with for over two years, I applied for a position with the Social Security Administration. The brother who interviewed me, said he would let me work there for a few months, to see how I worked out. He never heard from me again. I already had 17 years in. Now if they worked it out with my old agency, to let me return if things didn't work out, then it would have been no problem. Like I already had my head on the chopping block. So I guess that brother was offering me a "career conditional" position, which meant I was going to be back on probation. To make it worst, he was only giving me a couple of months, instead of a year, like most "career conditional" employees get.

Maybe these government workers who recently agreed to go from "career" to "career conditional", didn't realize they were totally jeopardizing their "career" status. Or maybe they knew the risk, and this is the norm. When I was offered that short stint at the Social Security Administration over 20 years ago, nothing felt normal about risky my "career" status however, especially with all the years I had. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.

On another note, I understand a lot of government employees in the DMV have sold their homes within the last 7 days behind all of this, and many more put their homes on the market. They are also expecting to see a lot of foreclosures up there pretty soon. I sure hope my nephew and his wife don't get caught up in this, as they both have government jobs, and were doing everything right. They have a house and two children. Neither of them are on probation, but like the rest of the federal government, of course they are concerned. They don't deserve this.

With all these folks in the DMV selling their homes, a lot of them may be heading South with me, especially if they can land a job down here. If that's the case, at least these people coming down will have some sense, unlike the ones whom came down a few years after I did. Then again, it may not be necessary these days, because unlike when I was about to lose my job, you can practically become a millionaire on the internet, or at least do uber or lyft. Anyway, this home selling thing in the DMV is grounds for another topic. Maybe somebody already started a thread on this. I guess they really are tryna make PG White again.


I just learned today my new supervisor got caught up in the Valentine's Day massacre

He was a vet and had years of federal service

The fukked up part about it is this man had a stroke super bowl weekend!!!!! I felt so bad for him

This is such a wild situation we're in
 
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