FBI Quietly Updated Crime Rates...

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70s to 90s was absolutely a more violent stretch than the 21st century
Exactly. That whole time frame was the purge literally. NYC and LA both had thousands of murders. :picard: thousands. It was normal. Crazy thing is both cities didnt even have the highest murder rates in those decades. Miami, atlanta, new orleans, DC and etc had that highest murders per capita on lock. And sad enough, a lot of those murders were of black folks.

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You do realize there are more people in poverty that don't commit crimes than those that do, right? Everybody makes their own choices.
Yeah, most people in poverty don't commit crimes, but the numbers show that areas with more poverty tend to have more crime. It's not about blaming individuals, it's just a pattern we can't ignore. The truth is, the best way to lower crime is by fighting poverty. If you're still pushing for more "tough-on-crime" policies when we know they've failed and just led to mass incarceration, it's pretty clear you're not really interested in trying to solve the issue.
 

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Yeah, most people in poverty don't commit crimes, but the numbers show that areas with more poverty tend to have more crime. It's not about blaming individuals, it's just a pattern we can't ignore. The truth is, the best way to lower crime is by fighting poverty. If you're still pushing for more "tough-on-crime" policies when we know they've failed and just led to mass incarceration, it's pretty clear you're not really interested in trying to solve the issue.
Nope. Fight poverty AND crime. Anyone trying to run from the fact that culture is also contributing to crime is running from reality. You not gonna save those kids with lies. Attack all the factors not the one you are comfortable addressing
 

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Nope. Fight poverty AND crime. Anyone trying to run from the fact that culture is also contributing to crime is running from reality. You not gonna save those kids with lies. Attack all the factors not the one you are comfortable addressing
If you're going to quote me don't misrepresent what I am saying. We need to fight crime, but that doesn't mean we have to rely on tough-on-crime policies that failed in the past. Harsh punishments and mass incarceration didn't make communities safer, they just made things worse by destroying families and cycling people through prison. Instead, we should focus on strategies that prevent crime, like education, job programs, mental health support, and community policing. There is so much data out that that proves that when we invest in improving the condition of people, crime goes down, and everyone benefits. No one is suggesting you shouldn't fight crime, but we can be smart with it, and make sure accountability leads to real change.

Further, when people like you talk about culture, you need to still recognize how poverty influences it. The environment people grow up in shapes their choices and values. That's why it's essential to address both. Successful programs tackle multiple factors at once. If we want to help communities thrive, we need a comprehensive approach that looks at all these issues together.

Addressing poverty doesn't excuse bad choices, it just helps reduce the pressures that push people toward those choices.

That is an oversimplification. That kind of narrow focus is why we're never going to meaningfully reduce crime. Accountability alone won't solve the problem if we ignore the conditions that make crime more likely.
 

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If you're going to quote me don't misrepresent what I am saying. We need to fight crime, but that doesn't mean we have to rely on tough-on-crime policies that failed in the past. Harsh punishments and mass incarceration didn't make communities safer, they just made things worse by destroying families and cycling people through prison. Instead, we should focus on strategies that prevent crime, like education, job programs, mental health support, and community policing. There is so much data out that that proves that when we invest in improving the condition of people, crime goes down, and everyone benefits. No one is suggesting you shouldn't fight crime, but we can be smart with it, and make sure accountability leads to real change.

Further, when people like you talk about culture, you need to still recognize how poverty influences it. The environment people grow up in shapes their choices and values. That's why it's essential to address both. Successful programs tackle multiple factors at once. If we want to help communities thrive, we need a comprehensive approach that looks at all these issues together.

Addressing poverty doesn't excuse bad choices, it just helps reduce the pressures that push people toward those choices.


That is an oversimplification. That kind of narrow focus is why we're never going to meaningfully reduce crime. Accountability alone won't solve the problem if we ignore the conditions that make crime more likely.
Long term solutions, in the meantime what do you do? You didn't name short term shyt and not everyone is going to treat these fools with baby gloves. Yes people want them locked up now.
 

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Would be less crime If more money was flowing legally thru these streets

If we can't support everybody, maybe immigration has to be cut back
 

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This is complete word salad babble. If the crime statistics in 2020 don't matter in a conversation about 2024... Then neither would 2019 which is the basis of this thread as a "spike" in any metric can only be observed relative to what it's being compared to obviously.
It’s called context. If you want to know why crime was higher from 2019-2023 than the previous four or five year period, it’s because of the extreme spike in 2020 and 2021.
 

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It’s weird to compare pre-pandemic crime to 2023….


It’s known that there was a massive rise in crime in 2020…. If we look at a comparison from 2020-2023 we see that crime is actually dropping and headed its way to pre pandemic levels.

It’s suspect that 2019 is being used as the baseline and the focus is on things being worse …

Like getting into a car accident and focusing on how you have a limp now when you used to be a star athlete….while completely ignoring the fact that you were fully paralyzed before you had multiple surgeries.

What comparison you make on a situation determines how positive/negative it looks.
 

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Well of course, which tells you all you need to kno about the OP :francis:
Or it just says you like to deny anything that doesn't line up with your already made up mind.

Seriously, I need yall to venture out to other parts of the internet to see how dumb Coli posters are in comparison. Yall nikkas make us look horrible. This is like the pits of the internet at this point
 

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Keep playing those games. :mjlol: coli, i promise you that Im going to see this dude @Luken and check his energy for yall offline since he keeps trying to live on and through this shyt not knowing who hes playing with. Dont worry,@Luken, Im going to find you, Lukie. Keep the same energy though.. its weird you have my photo though and how you have to tell lies about a lightsaber across my neck being a sex toy because i roasted your picture. :mjlol: your bytch ass cant even address me on your original account because youre ducking the entire forum from facing the lies and fake life you presented chasing clout on a message board. :mjlol:

If any of yall want to help direct me to @Luken in person, DM me. You will be financially compensated for your efforts. Bet his bytch ass is excited that he believes anybody cares enough to expose his bytch ass... i see hes in jersey too. :mjlol: ill find you sir.
 
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