Fat Joe Uses The N-Word A Bunch Of Times While Discussing Racism In Hip-Hop

[I'm Blackman]

Nobody gives a fukk how many black friends he had growing up. I had a couple of white friends and hispanic friends as a kid. You know what we didnt do? Call each other nikka. Our black friends did.

The mental gymnastics for a dude with a brady bunch childhood photo to call you nikka is laughable (if not a little sad).

Yes we know Joe is hiphop tried and true (from DTC etc)..no one is disputing that. But to die on a hill for a man with a thirst for his right (very 69 like) to say it is wild.

If you c00n and want your butta milk biscuits just say that man lol. Yall "nikkas" who defend this shyt (with such vigor i might add) no different than Larry Elder to me; you really hate yourself. Clowns with no self respect as black men.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I did not know this

That's why people thought Remy was Hispanic when she popped up on Yeah, Baby. LOL!!

Pun used to joke with her about that and that's why he had that line saying "I'm black, just a little lighter".

Juju from Beatnuts is another one. He used to call himself "the black sp*c". This is how NYC is. Dudes ain't looking at who's dark or light and saying "this one is black and that one isn't". It's the dumbest sh*t ever. Nore was just clowning AZ recently and saying that he needs to start repping his Spanish side more because AZ sees himself as "black too much". All of these dudes are black and hispanic. That's definitely NY sh*t, all day.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Nobody gives a fukk how many black friends he had growing up.

Joe's grandparents were literally black.

It's not just about who you were friends with. These dudes have black in their family. New York in the 60's and 70's in the Bronx and Uptown was damn near all black and hispanic. The generations that followed are a mix of that. Which is why we all grew up together. This isn't the South or a place where you see hoods divided up into mostly one thing. Here, everyone was mixing. So you're gonna have Afro-latino people everywhere. Look at Fab, and a million other NYC rappers. Mad dudes are mixed and see themselves as black.

 

[Kool]

He’s a fat racist Hispanic that’s been emboldened by east coast cowards afraid to check him
Luckily the Roy jones hoed him

This.

I will never understand how Black New Yorkers haven't checked "Wack Joe" and told him that needs to stay out of Black peoples business.

But now that I think about it, those New York Puerto Ricans have been milking Black New Yorkers for decades.

Damn shame...

 

[I'm Blackman]

Joe's grandparents were literally black.

It's not just about who you were friends with. These dudes have black in their family. New York in the 60's and 70's in the Bronx and Uptown was damn near all black and hispanic. The generations that followed are a mix of that. Which is why we all grew up together. This isn't the South or a place where you see hoods divided up into mostly one thing. Here, everyone was mixing. So you're gonna having Afro-latino people everywhere.

Bruh your one of my favorite posters on hiphop related items, and i hear you (i do, your argument is very cogent).

But Fat Joe saying nikka aint gone never sit right with me. And that's ok. Joe aint losing sleep over my opinion and this shyt has zero impact on my life. Not because i dont live around hispanic people...a few live in my neighborhood...they just not seeing me and saying what up my nikka.

Ive read your post in the thread about the TS members backgrounds and I didnt know those things. So you breaking it down...i understand it intellectualy...but again Joe being so casual with saying nikka will NEVER sit right with me. Like i said in an earlier post his demands for his rights to it rub me the wrong way.


Peoples background dictate how they see things. You grew up in multicultural NYC in a diverse neighborhood (i assume) with people (immigrants?) from different countries. If yall were friends sice two years old I understand how it doesnt offend you because feel you know their heart.

But if you grew up in the South around 80 percent black people, 15 percent white people, and 5 percent others....your world is shaped like that. You relate to other races differently based on your background whether thats Harlem, Montogmery, AL, Compton or the moon.

So i understand where you coming from bruh and im not mad about your position. Like i said i intellectually get it. But as a black Southern man who was taught to fight and advocate for civil rights since i was a child..itll never sit well with me.

But respect to you bro.


edit: also Joe comes off not as these are my brothers but "hehe i can say nikka" because im cool. So it comes across racist. I

 

[Awesome Wells]

Bruh your one of my favorite posters on hiphop related items, and i hear you (i do, your argument is very cogent).

But Fat Joe saying nikka aint gone never sit right with me. And that's ok. Joe aint losing sleep over my opinion and this shyt has zero impact on my life. Not because i dont live around hispanic people...a few live in my neighborhood...they just not seeing me and saying what up my nikka.

Ive read your post in the thread about the TS members backgrounds and I didnt know those things. So you breaking it down...i understand it intellectualy...but again Joe being so casual with saying nikka will NEVER sit right with me. Like i said in an earlier post his demands for his rights to it rub me the wrong way.


Peoples background dictate how they see things. You grew up in multicultural NYC in a diverse neighborhood (i assume) with people (immigrants?) from different countries. If yall were friends sice two years old I understand how it doesnt offend you because feel you know their heart.

But if you grew up in the South around 80 percent black people, 15 percent white people, and 5 percent others....your world is shaped like that. You relate to other races differently based on your background whether thats Harlem, Montogmery, AL, Compton or the moon.

So i understand where you coming from bruh and im not mad about your position. Like i said i intellectually get it. But as a black Southern man who was taught to fight and advocate for civil rights since i was a child..itll never sit well with me.

But respect to you bro.


edit: also Joe comes off not as these are my brothers but "hehe i can say nikka" because im cool. So it comes across racist. I

Nah, I definitely hear you.

It really does depend on where you're from and what you were exposed to. Where I'm from, mad people were afro-latino. Mixed with black and some other hispanic sh*t. So dudes like AZ, Joe, Nore, Fab, Juju, Pun, and a lot of the other rappers we speak about on here, are just like the people we always knew. They saw themselves as black.

I grew up 5 mins from where Joe is from. And spent my childhood running on the same blocks that he did. So I know how it was and still is today. I've known that dude forever. So I get the history. But if you're like other people I met later in life, who grew up in places like Biloxi or Montgomery, they're not gonna understand how this works for us in Harlem and the Bronx. It's really two different worlds.

 

[Fanservice]

East coast never checked Fat Joe

West coast never checked Fat Joe

Midwest never checked Fat Joe

South side never checked Fat Joe

Even Roy Jones was forced to lean back



30+ years of saying nikka and not one person checked Fat Joe.

 

[Budda]

You are not from here, so don’t speak for how NYC does sh*t. You probably ain't even black.

Puerto Ricans are black. Cubans...black. Dominicans...black. AZ is Puerto Rican and Dominican. He said he grew up knowing he was hispanic because of his dad, but that he's mixed with black because of his mom. He always says he knows he's black. A lot of people in NYC are the same. AZ can't say "n*gga" now? So you're gonna tell people what they are because where you're from whites got black people shook with the word? FOH!

Like I said, this is NYC. We don’t play that dumb sh*t with our own here.

Puerto Ricans can be black, Cubans can be black, Dominicans can be black, not every one of these peoples from these nations are black though, you have white mestizo or more Afro ones. If all of them were black there wouldn’t be any need to have the distinction of being ‘Afro Latino’

Brazil has the highest Black population outside of Africa but not everyone there is black too, there are a large number of White Brazilians with mostly European ancestry.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

All Dominicans ain't Black tho

Right. Neither are all Cubans or Puerto Ricans.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Puerto Ricans can be black, Cubans can be black, Dominicans can be black, not every one of these peoples from these nations are black though, you have white mestizo or more Afro ones. If all of them were black there wouldn’t be any need to have the distinction of being ‘Afro Latino’

Brazil has the highest Black population outside of Africa but not everyone there is black too, there are a large number of White Brazilians with mostly European ancestry.

True.

But if they have black grandparents or parents and say they're black, then they're black. There are black people who don’t even claim to be black. But I'm speaking about the people who have both in their family and see themselves as that. Dudes like Fabolous don’t even see themselves as hispanic, even though he's 1/2 and has it in his family. He said he wasn't raised on that, so he feels black. That's usually how it is.

AZ said he knows his Hispanic heritage well, but sees himself as black. Mixed people go with what they identify with. Rashida Jones said sometimes she feels black, and other times she feels Jewish. If you're both, then they pick whatever they feel they are. Thing is, we don’t get to tell them what they are. That's a personal thing. There are black people who refuse to say "n*gga", and I respect that. But I say it all day.

 

[I'm Blackman]

Nah, I definitely hear you.

It really does depend on where you're from and what you were exposed to. Where I'm from, mad people were afro-latino. Mixed with black and some other hispanic sh*t. So dudes like AZ, Joe, Nore, Fab, Juju, Pun, and a lot of the other rappers we speak about on here, are just like the people we always knew. They saw themselves as black.

I grew up 5 mins from where Joe is from. And spent my childhood running on the same blocks that he did. So I know how it was and still is today. I've known that dude forever. So I get the history. But if you're like other people I met later in life, who grew up in places like Biloxi or Montgomery, they're not gonna understand how this works for us in Harlem and the Bronx. It's really two different worlds.

i hear you and respect your view point fam. Hell I thought AZ and Fab were what id call "black" for years. Same for Lloyd Banks, so I understand what youre saying. You know what you interact with. Where im from the communites are full of southern black people who going back generations were from the south. But if youre best friend family was from harlem and this other best friend was from Puerto Rico.....i get what u saying.

Thats why when I speak on it i try to come from a place of this is how I see it from my viewpoint. Some posters use this topic as an opportunity to shyt on NY. Thats not my aim. Thats why when people talk about Cali gang culture it doesnt make sense to me at all...but it does if you grew up there. So i usually dont comment on the topic.

I will say too....when i speak with kids i encourage them to travel and go to college. College was were i met muslims, 5 percenters, jewish people, and baptist like myself. They didnt change me but it widened my view of the world a bit. Travel has done the same.

I remember i had to go to Denver for a work event. So we stayed downtown for a week. My first time there and it was white as hell. But i remember calling my brother and telling him man Denver feels different like a mothafukka. He asked me how. I said you know how you go somewhere and white people see you and they may be very nice but they see you as "black" first. He said of course. I said it wasn't like that. I was going to different jewelry stores and shyt and them folks was looking at me the same way they looked at the Asian dude, or white due who just walked in. In other words they didnt give a fukk...they saw a customer first or they saw money first....they didnt see "black male" first.

 

[Budda]

True.

But if they have black grandparents or parents and say they're black, then they're black. There are black people who don’t even claim to be black. But I'm speaking about the people who have both in their family and see themselves as that. Dudes like Fabolous don’t even see themselves as hispanic, even though he's 1/2 and has it in his family. He said he wasn't raised on that, so he feels black. That's usually how it is.

AZ said he knows his Hispanic heritage well, but sees himself as black. Mixed people go with what they identify with. Rashida Jones said sometimes she feels black, and other times she feels Jewish. If you're both, then they pick whatever they feel they are. Thing is, we don’t get to tell them what they are. That's a personal thing. There are black people who refuse to say "n*gga", and I respect that. But I say it all day.

But Az Fab and Nore are obviously Black though breh, even someone like Pun you can clearly tell has admixture. People like J Lo and Fat Joe though look like they have far more European ancestry.

 

[jilla82]

its 2024 and yall still going on about this shyt.

you gotta be hella

the young black kids now say it with their white & hispanic friends all day long

I find it odd too but it is what it is

 

[Awesome Wells]

But Az Fab and Nore are obviously Black though breh, even someone like Pun you can clearly tell has admixture. People like J Lo and Fat Joe though look like they have far more European ancestry.

There is no "obviously" just because your skin is darker.

I know Hispanic people that are darker than black people and black people who are lighter than some white people. There's nothing "obvious" about that. How you look doesn't determine what you are.

 

[Awesome Wells]

i hear you and respect your view point fam. Hell I thought AZ and Fab were what id call "black" for years. Same for Lloyd Banks, so I understand what youre saying. You know what you interact with. Where im from the communites are full of southern black people who going back generations were from the south. But if youre best friend family was from harlem and this other best friend was from Puerto Rico.....i get what u saying.

Thats why when I speak on it i try to come from a place of this is how I see it from my viewpoint. Some posters use this topic as an opportunity to shyt on NY. Thats not my aim. Thats why when people talk about Cali gang culture it doesnt make sense to me at all...but it does if you grew up there. So i usually dont comment on the topic.

I will say too....when i speak with kids i encourage them to travel and go to college. College was were i met muslims, 5 percenters, jewish people, and baptist like myself. They didnt change me but it widened my view of the world a bit. Travel has done the same.

I remember i had to go to Denver for a work event. So we stayed downtown for a week. My first time there and it was white as hell. But i remember calling my brother and telling him man Denver feels different like a mothafukka. He asked me how. I said you know how you go somewhere and white people see you and they may be very nice but they see you as "black" first. He said of course. I said it wasn't like that. I was going to different jewelry stores and shyt and them folks was looking at me the same way they looked at the Asian dude, or white due who just walked in. In other words they didnt give a fukk...they saw a customer first or they saw money first....they didnt see "black male" first.

Exactly. I forgot about Banks. But he's another Puerto Rican dude.

I used to go to visit family in the south when I was a kid. I used to come back home and tell my friends that I didn't see any Spanish people. HAHA! It was the total opposite of what we experience in NYC. So it's definitely about where you're from. I grew up around all black and hispanic people. So I didn't really start seeing white people a lot until high school because I had to travel further for that. So my early experience was mostly around people who looked like me and spoke how I did.

Then in college, it was a bunch of people who weren't even from NY or black. So that's when I started seeing that these things don’t always crossover to other places because the experiences and history with them are mad different, depending on where you're from.