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[WIA20XX]

Juvie

The most recent and comprehensive data from the Mayor's Criminal Justice Coordinating Council – a 2022 study of juvenile system outcomes – reveals that 92.7% of young people committed to DYRS are subsequently re-arrested, and nearly half are convicted of a new offense.May 21, 2024

Attorney General Schwalb Introduces Legislation to Reduce Recidivism, Improve Public Safety Outcomes in Juvenile Justice System

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Adult

roughly 2/3rds of returning citizens recidivate upon their return to the community.

Reentry in the District of Columbia: Supporting Returning Citizens' Transitions into the Community | cjcc

Each year an estimated 2,000 – 2,500 offenders return to the District of Columbia from prison and roughly 17,000 cycle through the D.C. Department of Corrections. These individuals face a number of challenges upon their return, not the least of which are finding and sustaining adequate housing...

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9 out of 10 kids go right back into Juvie, where has only(!!!) 2 out of 3 go back to Adult Jail.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Motherfukker YES! Most of the reason these little shyts do it anyways IS because they are minors and will get a slap on the wrist. I dont care if you are a minor or not, if you are carjacking people you need to not be a part of society.

You watch too much TV, and it varies state to state.

Carjackers Are a ‘Real Threat’ But Data Shows Relatively Few Are Convicted - D.C. Witness

While carjackings have tripled in recent years and remain a “real threat,” says a source in the US Attorney’s office, most offenders don’t get caught. For the relatively few that...

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D.C.. was fukking up by not even detaining minors for car jacking at one point….

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Absolutely. Because the minors here know they won’t get charged/prosecuted for carjacking, they literally call it “free cars.” It’s a whole movement hyping it up

Yup… and charging them as adults is an over correction. That’s D.C.’s fukk up

 

[Rekkapryde]

Juvie

The most recent and comprehensive data from the Mayor's Criminal Justice Coordinating Council – a 2022 study of juvenile system outcomes – reveals that 92.7% of young people committed to DYRS are subsequently re-arrested, and nearly half are convicted of a new offense.May 21, 2024

Attorney General Schwalb Introduces Legislation to Reduce Recidivism, Improve Public Safety Outcomes in Juvenile Justice System

oag.dc.gov

Adult

roughly 2/3rds of returning citizens recidivate upon their return to the community.

Reentry in the District of Columbia: Supporting Returning Citizens' Transitions into the Community | cjcc

Each year an estimated 2,000 – 2,500 offenders return to the District of Columbia from prison and roughly 17,000 cycle through the D.C. Department of Corrections. These individuals face a number of challenges upon their return, not the least of which are finding and sustaining adequate housing...

cjcc.dc.gov

9 out of 10 kids go right back into Juvie, where has only(!!!) 2 out of 3 go back to Adult Jail.

welp. there it is.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Juvie

The most recent and comprehensive data from the Mayor's Criminal Justice Coordinating Council – a 2022 study of juvenile system outcomes – reveals that 92.7% of young people committed to DYRS are subsequently re-arrested, and nearly half are convicted of a new offense.May 21, 2024

Attorney General Schwalb Introduces Legislation to Reduce Recidivism, Improve Public Safety Outcomes in Juvenile Justice System

oag.dc.gov

Adult

roughly 2/3rds of returning citizens recidivate upon their return to the community.

Reentry in the District of Columbia: Supporting Returning Citizens' Transitions into the Community | cjcc

Each year an estimated 2,000 – 2,500 offenders return to the District of Columbia from prison and roughly 17,000 cycle through the D.C. Department of Corrections. These individuals face a number of challenges upon their return, not the least of which are finding and sustaining adequate housing...

cjcc.dc.gov

9 out of 10 kids go right back into Juvie, where has only(!!!) 2 out of 3 go back to Adult Jail.

You need to list age ranges and the crimes committed to make this make sense. This is not an apples to apples comparison

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Average sentence for Car Jacking in DC is 15 years.

So Juvie Camp for 10 years? 15? Or 5?

These kids know right from wrong, even if they really appreciate the level of messed up ness of their crimes.

They most certainly know right from wrong and I’m not absolving them of that… but I much rather see 7 to 10 years in a strict boot camp style system that focuses on true rehabilitation, as opposed to locking kids up in county jail or penal system with 35 year old hardened or career criminals

 

[mastermind]

DC's problems are way more wider that throwing people in prison won't solve it.

But America doesn't want to deal with poverty other than locking poor people up. Its wild how you all want the '94 Crime Bill back even though it didn't work.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I disagree because it’s not a solution to begin with. You really think trialing 15/16 year olds as adults deters crime? They are requesting that black minors are given adult time, even though the article states that carjackings are down almost 50 percent from last year. I’m speaking exclusively about young people 17 and under.

The evidence on this is pretty strong.

1) Refusing to prosecute cases without some other means of addressing the issue can be a problem and tends to incentivise crime.

2) However, if you are actually prosecuting cases and sentencing people to prison, harsher sentences don't do anything to decrease crime. Someone who carjacks a vehicle expecting to get 3 years in prison isn't suddenly going to not do it because they might get 10 years. You don't give up 3 years of your prime in a place like prison (and fukk up the rest of your life with that felony conviction) if you were thinking logically in the first place.



On top of that, prison sentences shouldn't be society's main means of addressing crime in the first place. A lot of posters here like @get these nets are purely reactionary, they don't understand human behavior or crime and so they stereotype "criminals" as just those people who need to be locked up. They don't stop to ask why the USA has the largest prison population in the world and yet still has higher rates for most of these crimes than the rest of the developed world. If you're already doing prison harder than any other developed country on Earth, and it still isn't working, then perhaps more of the same isn't going to work either.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If you have an alternative way to scare kids off from trying it, feel free to explain your solution

Disagreeing with their idea is not a solution for anything.

Progressively harsher prisons sentences aren't a solution for anything. You're part of that group who thinks prison is the only answer for all of society's ills, which is why America got this way in the first place. A higher prison population than any other country on Earth, yet still has higher homicide rates and most other violent crimes than any other developed country. That alone should cause you to question if prison is the effective solution you were taught to believe it is.

DC's problems are way more wider that throwing people in prison won't solve it.

But America doesn't want to deal with poverty other than locking poor people up. Its wild how you all want the '94 Crime Bill back even though it didn't work.

Exactly. You can go all the way back to the Moynihan Report all the way back in 1965 which predicted that the impacts of slavery, segregation, and racism leading to unemployment and poverty were creating massive social issues in a subset of American society and those fundamental issues NEEDED to be addressed or the children of those broken families would grow up without hope and in social pathology.

Certain right-wingers have focused on the marriage aspect of the Moynihan Report and then blamed Black people for the family structure issues while downplaying the impact of racism, and that has given the report a bad name in some circles. But the whole point of the Moynihan Report is that slavery/segregation/racism has CREATED a situation where far too many Black men are without jobs or stuck in low-wage jobs that can't provide for a family, and THAT lack of economic and social stability (not to mention the disruption caused by racist police harassing and imprisoning black men unjustly) is what led to the family structure and marriage issues. The solution at this point needs to be a social one, of repairing Black family structures, but that isn't something that can be treated by itself - the issues of a racist justice system, segregated residential situation, and inequality in economics need to be addressed for any sort of transformation in Black families to take hold in the long term.

 

[Voice of Reason]

The media tricked u idiots to get behind more punitive policing for primarily Black men and boys.

 

[DonB90]

The media tricked u idiots to get behind more punitive policing for primarily Black men and boys.

You mean the ones carjacking hardworking Black citizens.

Yeah fukk em.

fukk you to by the way

 

[Voice of Reason]

You mean the ones carjacking hardworking Black citizens.

Yeah fukk em.

I'm not in favor of crime.


Of course carjackers should go to jail.

But lets address the roots of crime.

 

[DonB90]

I'm not in favor of crime.


Of course carjackers should go to jail.

But lets address the roots of crime.

Negro go open up a community center then and shut the fukk up

Its 2024 there is no root of the crime these 16 years aren't even jacking cars and taking em to the chop shop for money they just doing it for the clout.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Negro go open up a community's center then and shut the fukk up

Shut the fukk up cracka.

We need reparations to address the damage that you devils have done.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

I'm not in favor of crime.


Of course carjackers should go to jail.

But lets address the roots of crime.

What you think should be done to address the roots?