"Ex Machina" Official Thread

[Mr. Brown]

I thought the plan was

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all the doors would be open except that control room. That's where the rich dude was going to be trapped, and that's why Ava told the simp to wait there

Good point.

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That would make sense because Nathan would probably be in that room if he was passed out since that's where his bed was

 

[jwinfield]

While I liked it especially the ending it is a leap for me to actually believe a human being would actually think a robot liked them. Especially someone supposedly smart.

He was also a guy with no family, no girl and spent the formative years of his life alone in a hospital room learning how to code. Nathan said he picked him because he was a morally righteous person and made Ava look like his ideal woman. Add into the fact that Ava did have the ability to think and manipulate and

 

[AnonymityX1000]

He was also a guy with no family, no girl and spent the formative years of his life alone in a hospital room learning how to code. Nathan said he picked him because he was a morally righteous person and made Ava look like his ideal woman. Add into the fact that Ava did have the ability to think and manipulate and

So it is a logic vs emotion thing. It would have been more believable if like the Asian bot he did not know she was fake from jumpstreet or ever. But if you tell me the fact of the matter from jump ‘this is a robot’ I just can’t get that emotionally attached. Especially to the point I’m willing to commit crimes and deceptions for someone I just met.

Most people can tell when they are being manipulated especially by a stranger. At that point a smart person guards their emotions.

I am not a very emotional person and I never had that life experience so maybe it is easier for me to say.

 

[jwinfield]

So it is a logic vs emotion thing. It would have been more believable if like the Asian bot he did not know she was fake from jumpstreet or ever. But if you tell me the fact of the matter from jump ‘this is a robot’ I just can’t get that emotionally attached. Especially to the point I’m willing to commit crimes and deceptions for someone I just met.

Most people can tell when they are being manipulated especially by a stranger. At that point a smart person guards their emotions.

I am not a very emotional person and I never had that life experience so maybe it is easier for me to say.

But the test was to determine if Eva had consciousness or not. Caleb had reason to believe that she did, that she was more than just a robot.

 

[NobodyReally]

He was also a guy with no family, no girl and spent the formative years of his life alone in a hospital room learning how to code. Nathan said he picked him because he was a morally righteous person and made Ava look like his ideal woman. Add into the fact that Ava did have the ability to think and manipulate and

Thing is, this movie problematized what makes someone human.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

But the test was to determine if Eva had consciousness or not. Caleb had reason to believe that she did, that she was more than just a robot.

Dude if I present you with something that is OBVIOUSLY a robot. It being able to pretend to have consciousness to the point it seems real, I still know it is fake.

It’s like someone performing a magic trick on me just because a magician completely fooled me and I don’t know how they did it I’m not going to start thinking they really have magic powers. I know it’s fake, no matter what.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

He was also a guy with no family, no girl and spent the formative years of his life alone in a hospital room learning how to code. Nathan said he picked him because he was a morally righteous person and made Ava look like his ideal woman. Add into the fact that Ava did have the ability to think and manipulate and

in addition, he was the only other man that Ava met, Nathan said it was only natural for her to be attracted to him.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

in addition, he was the only other man that Ava met, Nathan said it was only natural for her to be attracted to him.

But she wasn't attracted to him she was just pretending. That's all that robots can do.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

But she wasn't attracted to him she was just pretending. That's all that robots can do.

the point was she and nathan tricked Caleb into thinking she liked him. If she was truly AI she could fall in love forreal but she probably would not view humanity in a positive light based on her experiences thus far

 

[AnonymityX1000]

the point was she and nathan tricked Caleb into thinking she liked him. If she was truly AI she could fall in love forreal but she probably would not view humanity in a positive light based on her experiences thus far

AI is a simulation or reality. None of its output is genuine. It is a machine it has no actual emotions just hardware and software that can do a great impression of emotions. Therefore the proof of AI isn't the machine actually falling in love but pretending to do so convincingly.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

AI is a simulation or reality. None of its output is genuine. It is a machine it has no actual emotions just hardware and software that can do a great impression of emotions. Therefore the proof of AI isn't the machine actually falling in love but pretending to do so convincingly.

Isn't that the question this movie raises? How do you distinguish legitimate consciousness from a convincing imitation? You can't be sure that Ava was only imitating consciousness. If she was just a robot, just a machine running on code why would she have such a desire to escape? Why would she kill Nathan? In my opinion she was conscious, she wasn't just imitating emotions.

 

[FlyRy]

Isn't that the question this movie raises? How do you distinguish legitimate consciousness from a convincing imitation? You can't be sure that Ava was only imitating consciousness. If she was just a robot, just a machine running on code why would she have such a desire to escape? Why would she kill Nathan? In my opinion she was conscious, she wasn't just imitating emotions.

Breh i just realized ive been completely obsessed with robots since t2. I watch every robot movie and humans is the first show i watch sunday nights.

I started watching mr robot cuz i thought it was about one

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Isn't that the question this movie raises? How do you distinguish legitimate consciousness from a convincing imitation? You can't be sure that Ava was only imitating consciousness. If she was just a robot, just a machine running on code why would she have such a desire to escape? Why would she kill Nathan? In my opinion she was conscious, she wasn't just imitating emotions.

Easy it is a machine. Nathan programmed it to 'pass the test' aka:escape. That's why he was surprised killing him was part of the process it was unexpected but a necessary step to the ultimate objective.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Easy it is a machine. Nathan programmed it to 'pass the test' aka:escape. That's why he was surprised killing him was part of the process it was unexpected but a necessary step to the ultimate objective.

How was that a necessary step? If Nathan wanted her to escape, why would he stop her? Why would Nathan program her with the ability to kill him if she deemed it necessary to complete her objective? Idk breh I'm not buying that she wasn't conscious

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

I started watching mr robot cuz i thought it was about one

humans is so fukking dope.

Have you seen Her?? Another awesome take on A.I.