European vs North American description of the Moors

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The word "Moor" simply ment black, here is another German website I found full of truth, I breaks down the origins of some of the Moor flags that were used.

de.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dewiki/152370
Der Begriff Mohr ist eine seit dem Mittelalter verwendete Bezeichnung für Menschen mit dunkler Hautfarbe, zum Beispiel historisch in Bezug auf Kuschiter und Mauren oder später allgemeiner für Schwarzafrikaner. Sie wird heute aufgrund ihrer negativen Konnotation nur noch selten gebraucht.

Translation:

The term Moor is used since the Middle Ages term for people with dark skin color, such as historical for the Ethiopians and Moors or later generalized for black Africans. It is now rarely used because of its negative connotation.



Ursprünglich bezeichnete das mittelhochdeutsche Wort mōr[1] einen Mauren. Der Begriff Maure stammt allerdings vom Griechischen μαῦρος, was soviel wie „schwarz, dunkel, dunkelhäutig, dunkelhaarig“ bedeutet. Mauretanien bedeutet daher zunächst das Land der Dunkelhäutigen. Das lateinische maurus kennzeichnet in aller Regel bereits den Mauren als Herkunftsbezeichnung (aus der Provinz Mauretania bzw. dem Königreich Mauretanien).

Im Mittelhochdeutschen wurde dann nicht selten zwischen swarzer mōr („Maure mit dunkler Hautfarbe“) und mōr („Maure“) differenziert. Sogar heute noch findet sich im Deutschen die Bezeichnung schwarzer Mohr, was man aber eher als unnötige Doppelung (Tautologie) oder als literarische Betonung empfindet. Sehr früh belegt ist auch die Verbindung von mōr und Ethiops.


Translation:

Originally designated the Middle High German word MOR [1 ] a Moor . However, the term Moor comes from the Greek μαῦρος , which means " black, dark , dark-skinned, dark-haired 'means . Mauritania therefore initially means the land of dark-skinned people . The Latin maurus features usually already the Moors as a designation of origin ( from the province of Mauretania and the Kingdom of Mauritania) .

In Middle High German then often between swarzer Mor ( " Moor with dark skin " ) and MOR ( " Moor ") was differentiated. Even today, can be found in German the term black Mohr, but you'd rather be an unnecessary duplication ( tautology ), or feels as literary emphasis. Occupied very early is the combination of MOR and Ethiops .

As in the 18th Century was the term " Moor " then increasingly by the term " ****** " replaced , there was the possibility for comparison of noble Mohr ( pre-colonial idea ) and primitive Negro ( colonial idea ) . Even the attempt to distinguish between black African " Negroes " and white African differentiate " Moors " in the wake of racial theories , is now obsolete.The term Mohr for a dark-skinned person is now used only in historical contexts. Like the term " negro " can be understood as a racially discriminatory term " Moor " .


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They're saying in the 18th century they stopped using Moor and started using ******, Moor being the pre colonial idea of blacks and ****** being the primitive negro (the new colonial idea. That makes sense because if you look up "black" in old dictionarys you will see Moor their as well. This dude made a video about that:



The truth:ohlawd:

Props on that video breh. :salute:
 

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Europeans are ashamed about this part of history, that black men "civilized" them again and brought them out of the dark ages. I find it rather interesting that right after the Moors fell off, Europeans went into Africa, forced our people into slavery, colonized the continent and destroyed any record of our history. It almost seems as if they were getting revenge :lupe: Its also interesting that Portugal was the first to start poaching African slaves. The same region the Moors controlled 100 years earlier :lupe: It all makes sense when you put it together.
 
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So why do modern blacks love them so much? I don't know much about this topic I just know that I saw somewhere that moors were suspect but I come on here and cats act like they were so great. Someone more knowledgable speak on this.

I already answered this. We aren't the ones that decided that every person on earth with black skin and kinky hair should be the same. It was ya'll cacs that decided it. And it was ya'll that decided that because we had black skin and kinky hair we were inferior. All we're doing now is just regaining our human dignity back and showing you that a bunch of black skin kinky hair brothas ruled over ya'll for 500 years and brought civilization to Europe.

Its funny how when its being used to disparage black folks, differences among black Africans doesn't matter. But when its black folks getting credit, now all of a sudden we care about the differences. You cacs can't have it both ways. Either we all nikkas or you ain't all cacs and I never wanna hear anything about Ancient Greece or Rome outta a Germanic's mouth again.
 
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Tuaregs have the same haplogroup E1b1b that is found in East Africa. Even when you look at both groups you can see many physical similarities.

Tuaregs are closer to berbers than blacks, let's be honest with ourselves this forum likes to paint everyone as black :laugh:

As for your final point, you made it sound as if all Tuaregs were part of those groups when that isn't the case. It's like me saying all Americans are lazy and fat.

wait a second. if I follow your logic, you're saying the Tuaregs aren't black, yet they're most closely related to East Africans :dahell:

do you not realize how stupid you sound?

the largest east african tribe is the oromo. here's an oromo family.
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if you're about to argue that these people ain't black, then I guess by the same token, most black americans ain't black either cause this looks like it could be the family album of any black american family (minus the clothinig)
 
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Tuaregs have the same haplogroup E1b1b that is found in East Africa. Even when you look at both groups you can see many physical similarities.

Tuaregs are closer to berbers than blacks, let's be honest with ourselves this forum likes to paint everyone as black :laugh:

As for your final point, you made it sound as if all Tuaregs were part of those groups when that isn't the case. It's like me saying all Americans are lazy and fat.
tuerags show up to be 90.91% related to ethiopians..

tureags show up to be 81.82% related to berbers (of all NA/NWA regions)..

sources:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2987384/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)
 

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I already answered this. We aren't the ones that decided that every person on earth with black skin and kinky hair should be the same. It was ya'll cacs that decided it. And it was ya'll that decided that because we had black skin and kinky hair we were inferior. All we're doing now is just regaining our human dignity back and showing you that a bunch of black skin kinky hair brothas ruled over ya'll for 500 years and brought civilization to Europe.

Its funny how when its being used to disparage black folks, differences among black Africans doesn't matter. But when its black folks getting credit, now all of a sudden we care about the differences. You cacs can't have it both ways. Either we all nikkas or you ain't all cacs and I never wanna hear anything about Ancient Greece or Rome outta a Germanic's mouth again.

Bruh grow up. nikkas are just in here having a convo while you getting all personal. :huhldup:
 

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I already answered this. We aren't the ones that decided that every person on earth with black skin and kinky hair should be the same. It was ya'll cacs that decided it. And it was ya'll that decided that because we had black skin and kinky hair we were inferior. All we're doing now is just regaining our human dignity back and showing you that a bunch of black skin kinky hair brothas ruled over ya'll for 500 years and brought civilization to Europe.

Its funny how when its being used to disparage black folks, differences among black Africans doesn't matter. But when its black folks getting credit, now all of a sudden we care about the differences. You cacs can't have it both ways. Either we all nikkas or you ain't all cacs and I never wanna hear anything about Ancient Greece or Rome outta a Germanic's mouth again.


And if you payed any attention my question was did moors have anything to do with slave trading. That was my main question. Try not to get emotional with your next response sir.
 
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