European Soccer Clubs create new league

[Malik1time]

Imma keep my thoughts to myself. No point in trying to explain the evils of this to this forum frequented by mostly Americans who simply do not understand, respect, or care about the game of football.

Burning my Manchester United jerseys later today.

This im reading this thread in disgust
im not gonna arguing with those idiots

 

[cobra]

Not exactly.

It looks like the breakaway clubs intend to stay in their own domestic league competitions (think of it as conferences), but will not participate in the NCAA tournament, instead forming their own competing tournament.

Football has a sordid history of corruption, so any of the governing bodies stepping on their soap box to denounce this is hypoctritical. Clubs first and foremost are businesses, and the objective is to make as much money as possible while delivering a product that viewers will be happy with. I think the clubs are banking on a US-sports style playoff structure that will optimize revenue by having the best of the best clubs playing each other throughout the season. They could pull this off, but only with buy-in from the fans.

This is a power play move, and ultimately I think a concession will be made by FIFA and the country-level governing bodies to give more revenue to the "bigger teams" as they probably feel they are the reason viewers are watching the Champions League in the first place. From an organizational standpoint, it actually makes sense from them to consolidate as the domestic leagues will still continue as normal. UEFA and FIFAs only play is to sanction the players from participating in their organized tournaments, including international football competition.

They probably will want to create unrest among the players with that announcement. But a lot of players are already fed up with international competitions because they get injured during these tournaments and there is no real incentive to compete in these "friendly" competitions anymore either.

In simpler terms; majority of the money in football comes from TV rights. The biggest clubs (and their respective fans) are responsible generating all of this revenue. They are probably angling for a bigger share of the pie. Now they have to get their fans to support the idea. If they can sell fans on subsidized tickets and other incentive-based support, it has a chance to fly. I think the 'big clubs' have the leveraging power because if they pull out and split from UEFA completely, it will make UEFA competitions barely watchable.

everyone wants to play for their country

this is the biggest weapon fifa/uefa has

 

[MikelArteta]

No it isnt. Having the big clubs go at it is the perfect competition. I know u weridos like having mid tier teams to compete for some feel good story (ie Liecester City). But that shyt is rare and they would be a bottom 3 vs top competition.

Theres nothing competitve about a small club team beating a big club team once every 6 games




No one fukking cares about those bottom dwellers

If the season ended today only 2/6 super clubs would be the champions league next year

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

No it isnt. Having the big clubs go at it is the perfect competition. I know u weridos like having mid tier teams to compete for some feel good story (ie Liecester City). But that shyt is rare and they would be a bottom 3 vs top competition.

Theres nothing competitve about a small club team beating a big club team once every 6 games




No one fukking cares about those bottom dwellers

Have you even watched the Premier League this year?

You literally have Leicester and West Ham competing for the top 4 at the expense of these so-called "big club teams", Liverpool (defending champions) have flopped, Arsenal are near 10th in the table, City started off flopping and then rose to the top. Actually, if City themselves did not go on a crazy winning run, the title race would have been one of the most exciting we've seen in the last decade. The relegation race is always a large component of drama too. So NO, it's not just the top of the table we care about. Any team is capable on any given week of taking points from other teams in the table, which is what makes every single game count in the table. The drama and excitement the PL brings every year is a product of what ALL 20 teams do in the league, not just what the supposed big 6 do.

But even if we went along with the ESL premise, why should the 6 named teams (Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City) be the ones to enter that competition? If you want to talk about competition, Leicester might have a better case than Tottenham. We already have the Champions League to see a clash of Europe's best. Having legacy teams or big-name brand teams in an elite competition is retarded because it does not take into account what has actually been taking place on the football pitch for the last few seasons.

Making changes and innovations to existing leagues (such as the Champions League) is one thing, but to uproot the entirety of the domestic league system is another thing all together and tips the scales far too heavily in favour of business motivations when you consider a "shareholder" vs "stakeholder" type-scenario. If you live in the US (which I'm assuming), of course you don't give a shyt about this proposal because you haven't considered the implications of expenses incurred by constantly having to travel etc. Not all fans can afford to do this.

This idea is simply in poor taste, no matter what perspective you look at it from.

 

[Bboystyle]

If the season ended today only 2/6 super clubs would be the champions league next year
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Have you even watched the Premier League this year?

You literally have Leicester and West Ham competing for the top 4 at the expense of these so-called "big club teams", Liverpool (defending champions) have flopped, Arsenal are near 10th in the table, City started off flopping and then rose to the top. Actually, if City themselves did not go on a crazy winning run, the title race would have been one of the most exciting we've seen in the last decade. The relegation race is always a large component of drama too. So NO, it's not just the top of the table we care about. Any team is capable on any given week of taking points from other teams in the table, which is what makes every single game count in the table. The drama and excitement the PL brings every year is a product of what ALL 20 teams do in the league, not just what the supposed big 6 do.

But even if we went along with the ESL premise, why should the 6 named teams (Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City) be the ones to enter that competition? If you want to talk about competition, Leicester might have a better case than Tottenham. We already have the Champions League to see a clash of Europe's best. Having legacy teams or big-name brand teams in an elite competition is retarded because it does not take into account what has actually been taking place on the football pitch for the last few seasons.

Making changes and innovations to existing leagues (such as the Champions League) is one thing, but to uproot the entirety of the domestic league system is another thing all together and tips the scales far too heavily in favour of business motivations when you consider a "shareholder" vs "stakeholder" type-scenario. If you live in the US (which I'm assuming), of course you don't give a shyt about this proposal because you haven't considered the implications of expenses incurred by constantly having to travel etc. Not all fans can afford to do this.

This idea is simply in poor taste, no matter what perspective you look at it from.

Its covid season. Every damn year its the same 4 or 5 clubs competing. Yes u will have one baby club claw its way up only to dissapear into oblivion the next season.


Did i really have to explain this to yall?


U really think Weat Ham gonna compete consistenly let alone have a chance to win?


As for Leciester, they should set it up where league winners have a chance to play in the super league. Tbh, tottenham is a bottling choking club so its debateable to even include them in the super league

 

[Ukbrotha]

No it isnt. Having the big clubs go at it is the perfect competition. I know u weridos like having mid tier teams to compete for some feel good story (ie Liecester City). But that shyt is rare and they would be a bottom 3 vs top competition.

Theres nothing competitve about a small club team beating a big club team once every 6 games




No one fukking cares about those bottom dwellers

This is such a strange take but I accept there's nothing I can or will say that will make a difference to what you think so no point really.

 

[Canon]

I don't get why there domestic leagues would kick them out

 

[cobra]

american greed ruining everything

 

[Tres Leches]

This shyt is dumb with only 12 teams no Bayern or psg are they really a “super” league only on name recognition

 

[Bboystyle]

This is such a strange take but I accept there's nothing I can or will say that will make a difference to what you think so no point really.

Not strange at all. Tell me, besides Leciester who is now consistently playing top level footy, what other small clubs have a chance to even win their domestic cup?

Look at the winners of the EPL since the 90s.


Look at the list of the winners of La Liga since the 90s

I mean,what is so hard to understand here.


Your logic is to throw a bunch of mid tier and smaller clubs just to compete for mediocricy and relegation

Enyertaining? Sure for some. I can give two fukks what happens to teams below the top 5.

 

[Malik1time]

american greed ruining everything

players love playing for their country so the super league will die right?

 

[Bboystyle]

american greed ruining everything

Trash ass UEFA doesnt like competition

 

[Ukbrotha]

I don't get why there domestic leagues would kick them out

If there's no incentive for teams in domestic leagues to finish as high up as possible then what's the point? it completely devalues the domestic competition.

 

[Ukbrotha]

Not strange at all. Tell me, besides Leciester who is now consistently playing top level footy, what other small clubs have a chance to even win their domestic cup?

Look at the winners of the EPL since the 90s.


Look at the list of the winners of La Liga since the 90s

I mean,what is so hard to understand here.


Your logic is to throw a bunch of mid tier and smaller clubs just to compete for mediocricy and relegation

Enyertaining? Sure for some. I can give two fukks what happens to teams below the top 5.

You're completely missing the point. its like either you havent read the proposals of the ESL or you've being wilfully ignorant.

 

[Bboystyle]

You're completely missing the point. its like either you havent read the proposals of the ESL or you've being wilfully ignorant.

I read the proposals. I even said im for it and fukk the EPL, la Liga, ect.


Are u slow?


Here, let me retype it for u ADD having ass nikkas.



I rather have a super league with top clubs than the current domestic leagues where its the same top clubs competing with 20+ mid tier and low level clubs playing.


Shall i repeat my self again on your next reply?