They really dont get soccer , its a different beast , they will play to empty stadiums
European Soccer Clubs create new league
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They really dont get soccer , its a different beast , they will play to empty stadiums
EA might have to change FIFA up. But at least if they make the agreement, Juventus will be in the game.
If those teams are missing from FIFA, I dunno if I play... Well I play with PSG, so I guess it doesn't matter for now.
If those teams are missing from FIFA, I dunno if I play... Well I play with PSG, so I guess it doesn't matter for now.
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The majority of them would collapse, most of those immediately
TheOptimisticCynikal
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They'll still have those teams, they just won't be called 'Juventus' or 'Manchester United' but in spirit, there'll be representation of those club. They've done it before with teams they couldn't get the license/copyright for
I can guess that most people that buy FIFA are fans of football, not only fans of the top 15 clubs in Europe. Europeans support teams for heritage, geography, and other reasons before how successful a team is whereas I think with Americans if your team isn't the best or near the best in the country, why does it even exist?
Yippee Ki Yay
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Think I will stay out of this thread, I don't think many people understand football like in the other thread
who wants to be in a competition where there is no competitive edge to it and there is no relegation or promotion each season
It completely pointless, you might as well draw names out of a hat at the beginning on the season to determine places come the end of the season
who wants to be in a competition where there is no competitive edge to it and there is no relegation or promotion each season
It completely pointless, you might as well draw names out of a hat at the beginning on the season to determine places come the end of the season
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I’d actually like you to explain a bit?
Is this all about disrespecting Tradition or is it about Competition?
I’m genuinely curious to know from those that hate this
Both.
Most European football clubs go back over 200 years. Think of the trophies, folklore, rivalries in that timeframe. Judging by how fans have taken to this... This is a massive spit in the face to all that heritage.
Also, a foundational principal of football has been, at least in theory, the idea that anyone can compete for the highest honors. A closed league lays waste to that idea.
The less heralded clubs definitely draw great crowds at home. No doubt about that. But that's local. EPL, La Liga, and the likes as far as I know are shown in at least a hundred countries or more so it's not just America & Asian countries not following the mid and lower table clubs. Brehs in Africa, S. America, Arab nations, etc. are sporting Barca, AC Milan, ManU shyt as well
Think I will stay out of this thread, I don't think many people understand football like in the other thread
who wants to be in a competition where there is no competitive edge to it and there is no relegation or promotion each season
It completely pointless, you might as well draw names out of a hat at the beginning on the season to determine places come the end of the season
Even though some of you are dead set in this moral superiority I’m just going to ask something.
Is it ok that Bayern is about to win 10 leagues in a row?
PSG about to win 8 out of 9?
Real Madrid and Barca winning like 30 of the last 35 league titles?
Porto, Benfica, and Sporting winning like 99 out of 100 league titles?
Celtic and Rangers having over 100 league titles between them with the rest of their league having less than 10 combined?
England has been the most competitive, but since 1991 with the Premier League money coming in the richest clubs being the ones winning every year outside of 2? (Leicester and Blackburn). Arsenal stopped being competitive pretty much exactly when they started trying to balance their books.
These top clubs barely even have to worry about finishing outside the champions league spots most years, let alone top 10 or anywhere close to relegation, but it’s ok for the likes of West Brom and Norwich or Mallorca or whoever to get promoted a couple times a decade, have no chance of competing and get beat down then relegated as soon as they sniff the top level?
Competitive edge in top level domestic leagues barely exists outside of these mega rich clubs against each other, we know most clubs have no shot, and the second they do - their best players get bought by one of the richer clubs anyway so they go right back to mediocrity.
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One of the biggest problems IMO. I hate the fact that there will be no promotion or relegation. It's exactly the same as a closed American based league. Maybe a crazy comment but seems like a rich MLS.Think I will stay out of this thread, I don't think many people understand football like in the other thread
who wants to be in a competition where there is no competitive edge to it and there is no relegation or promotion each season
It completely pointless, you might as well draw names out of a hat at the beginning on the season to determine places come the end of the season
The answer isn't to gift billionaire owners a balance sheet league with no relegation and erase the meritocracy out of football.
Yippee Ki Yay
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what you are saying is completely right and yeah it is not right with only certain teams winning it each year, but we have relegation and promotion each year in all our leagues around Europe and sometimes other clubs do win it and big clubs do get relegated
Look at Leeds 04 I think got relegated and Atletico Madrid got relegated in 00 I think
we also have a merit based system with regards to qualifying for the European competition, which they seem to be trying to get rid of. No team deserves to be in it every year just because of who they are . Arsenal have not qualified for the Champs League for the last 5 years , and Spurs have qualified for it about 5 times since it started in 1992, and none of them have ever won it
Why should they both be in and someone like Ajax who qualify for it virtually every year and have won it 4 times not be allowed in it unless they are invited by these so called big clubs
Every club in the PL get given the same amount of money each year which is spread evenly amongst the 20 teams and then given money for where they finish and teams do break into the so called big 4 occasionally, it might even happen this year .
When Leicester won it in I think 15\16 the season before they nearly got relegated and was 5000\1 to win it at the start of the season, their reward for it was getting a spot in the CL for the next season. Would it be fair to turn around and say well done but we giving your spot to Man U and Liverpool instead because they are big clubs but finished 5 and 8 respectively
And Yes I agree it isn't fair that all the richest clubs take all the best players off of the smaller clubs but with what they are trying to do with trying to turn it on to an American style competion I would be not be surprised if they got rid of football transfers as well and ended up having a trade system like they have in America.
The smaller clubs depend on having their best players which come through their youth systems brought off of them to survive and carry on
Yeah, but right now it is still possible for Leicester to win the league. Even if it's just the 1 time out of a 100. That's what people'll be talking about in 50 years. That's what fuels the (ticket buying) fans of every club outside of the top 6 to renew their season tickets over and over again, and what fuels millions of fans to tune in every weekend. That's the beauty of football. No one will remember exactly when Chelsea won the league, but everyone remembers when Leicester did it.
And besides, there's way more to the league system than winning a championship. I realize that this is very difficult to understand for American sports fans (not meant as an insult, there's just a different upbringing.) If your team ever had to spend some time in a lower league – and then you're finally get promoted to the big league, you'll know what I'm talking about.
TheOptimisticCynikal
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Fans of teams that have literally never even gotten close to success fill their stadium year in year out. Football (soccer) for Europeans doesn't prioritize winning and success like Americans do. There are supporters that know full well that it'll be a miracle for them to witness their club win anything in their lifetime and they still would bleed for their club. It's a different beast for the average football fan