ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America Series [Discussion Thread]

[Captain]

This docu is something else

 

[Black Lightning]

 

[ALonelyDad]

Carl sounds like Dave Chappelle doing a prince skit

 

[loyola llothta]

OJ would of never been acquitted if not for the incompetence of the LAPD/City of LA. All the evidence, motive, lack of alibi, and history of abuse point to OJ being the murderer. The trial was a fukking joke.

he would've still got off, they didnt really have any real hard evidence. the DV motive was so weak

 

[The War Report]

he would've still got off, they didnt really have any real hard evidence. the DV motive was so weak

What?

 

[loyola llothta]

@mson this doc is just another piece to the successful industry of "OJ", alot cacs made money off this including the popo. the whole premise is to retell/introduce the OJ trial to the public again shaping the narrative "O.J. Simpson’s refusal to acknowledge his blackness/look he dont even ride for yall/Race Card/I'm not black, im OJ/Sociopathic narcissistic tendencies/Bill Cosby Analogy"...this was made for us


they damn put everything in this, the destruction of the apartments at 39th, the killing of eula but not CTE (Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy) etc

 

[Forlife44]

Cochran's 15 points of reasonable doubt in Simpson case

Text of the 15 points of reasonable doubt cited by defense attorney Johnnie Cochran Jr.:

1. Why ... did the blood show up on the sock almost two months after a careful search for evidence and why, as demonstrated by Dr. Lee and Professor MacDonell, was the blood applied when there was no foot in it?
2. Why was Mark Fuhrman, a detective who had been pushed off the case, the person who went by himself to the Bronco, over the fence to interrogate Kato to discover the glove and the thump-thump-thump area?
3. Why was the glove still moist when Fuhrman found it if Mr. Simpson had dropped it seven hours earlier?
4. If Mark Fuhrman ... would speak so openly about his intense genocidal racism to a relative stranger such as Kathleen Bell, how many of his co-workers, the other detectives in this case, were also aware that he lied when he denied using the n-word, yet failed to come forward?
5. Why did the prosecution not call a single police officer to rebut police photographer Rokahr's testimony that Detective Fuhrman was pointing at the glove before - before Fuhrman went to Rockingham?: That is, around 4:30 in the morning.
6. If the glove had been dropped on the walkway at Rockingham 10 minutes after the murder, why is there no blood or fiber on that south walkway or on the leaves the glove was resting on. Why is there no blood in the 150 feet of narrow walkway, on the stucco walk abutting it?
7. For what purpose was Vannatter carrying Mr. Simpson's blood in his pocket for three hours and a distance of 25 miles instead of booking it down the hall at Parker Center?
8. Why did Deputy District Attorney Hank Goldberg, in a desperate effort to cover up for the missing 1.5 milliliters of Mr. Simpson's blood, secretly go out to the home of police nurse Thano Peratis without notice to the defense and get him to contradict his previous sworn testimony at both the grand jury and the preliminary hearing?
9. Why if, according to Ms. Clark, he walked into his own house wearing the murder clothes and shoes is there not any soil or so much as a smear or drop of blood associated with the victims on the floor, the white carpeting, the doorknobs, thelight switches, and his bedding?
10. If Mr. Simpson had just killed Mr. Goldman in a bloody battle involving more than two dozen knife wounds - where Mr. Goldman remained standing and struggling for several minutes - how come there is less than seven-tenths of one drop of blood consistent with Mr. Goldman found in the Bronco?
11. Why following a bitter struggle alleged with Mr. Goldman were there no bruises or marks on O.J. Simpson's body?
12. Why do bloodstains with the most DNA not show up until weeks after the murders?
13. Why did Mark Fuhrman lie to us?
14. Why did Phil Vannatter lie to us?
15. Given Professor MacDonell's testimony that the gloves would not have shrunk no matter how much blood was smeared on them, and given that they never shrank on June 21, 1994, until now despite being repeatedly frozen and thawed, how come the gloves just don't fit?

 

[MostReal]

Devils of deception

Breh it don't get no realer

 

[Forlife44]

 

[TBdaGhost]

he would've still got off, they didnt really have any real hard evidence. the DV motive was so weak

what about the blood everywhere. In his bronco. The cut on his left finger. The blood drops on the left side of the killers footprints. The fact he had beat the shyt out of her multiple times

 

[MostReal]

All that blood and the bronco had a few drops

Exactly
Plus the time line for him to do it, all that blood everywhere he would've been a complete mess. How he clean himself up like that, no significant injuries either. not touch much of anything with blood and still make that flight

They just need to give it up, OJ didn't do it.

 

[MostReal]

Why this piece of shyt bill hodgman don't mention ron hands with bruises where he was fighting back

Why his ass didn't mention Nicole finger nails with someone else blood type

Doesn't fit the narrative to be a cac

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

arenelle simpson was beautiful back in the 90's

Pac smashed that.

 

[loyola llothta]

Yup...and they still call the juice a murder to this day because they don't want to be embarrassed. But oj constant slipping over the years allowed this. Kato let cats in to plant evidence on OJ...BUT THEY DIDNT REALIZE IT WOULD ALL BE TOO UNBELIEVABLE...in short, they LAWST. Ojs problem is that he and nicole did narcotics wit enemies and opportunists...OJ was a arrogant black man with a white wife who didnt understand his surroundings, and neither did nicole cuz she been down wit him since 18....they didn't see the haters watching. The world isn't hertz rental car fam

@BillBanneker

but but but the doc told me OJ kill & over kill the two grown adults even with no real proof and common sense would tell us otherwise...

Rogers, currently serving time on death row in Florida, first emerged as an alternate culprit in the 2012 Investigation Discovery documentary, My Brother The Serial Killer, when his own brother, Clay Rogers, claimed, “I’m absolutely certain that my brother Glen killed Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman. I know my brother did it because I’ve seen proof that he was there.”


Now, Simpson’s manager Norman Pardo has shared a bombshell letter from Rogers with Radar, in which the serial killer claims Simpson’s life has been destroyed for a crime Rogers says “he didn’t even do.”

“There’s more to the story than just the letter,” Pardo tells Radar exclusively. “We’ve been in communication for almost a year now. Rogers has no options. He’s out of appeals and everything. He just doesn’t wanna die with O.J. getting credit for what he says he did.”

Rogers writes, “You won’t have to take me at my word. A full taped statement in your case was made in 1995.”

And according to Pardo, creator of the recent Simpson documentary O.J. Simpson: In His Own Words, “The L.A. Prosecutor and District Attorney have a file in which Rogers confessed, but they gave him a plea deal to get him out of the state… Because they were afraid he would mess up their O.J. thing. They arrested him after they arrested O.J. They couldn’t go back and say O.J. didn’t do it now!”



Rogers, a handyman, met Nicole when he was working on a repair crew at her house in 1994. His brother Clay claimed he called him a few days before the killing bragging about his new well-off client and promising to take her down. Clay also maintains that Rogers took a gold angel pin from the home after Nicole’s death and mailed it to his mother in Ohio.

And now, Pardo says he and Rogers are working together to pressure the authorities in L.A. to re-open Rogers’ case file in the hopes of publicizing his alleged confession, and revisiting the Goldman family’s $33.5 million civil judgment against Simpson.

“The letter gives me an open door to shut down their judgment against O.J.,” Pardo insists. “We have attorneys working on shutting down the judgment the Goldmans have until this is resolved. We’re trying to get the court to open up [Roger’s] files.”


Pardo claims that there is evidence beyond Rogers’ alleged confession — namely, information he claims is proof placing Rogers at the murder scene.

“I’ve gone as far as to get his footprint on a piece of paper,” Pardo tells Radar. “What people don’t realize is that the size 12 Bruno Mali that was supposedly used [by the murderer] was used on 19 different shoes, including work boots [like Rogers, a painter, would have worn]. I got the facts on that because I got the letter from Bruno Mali.”

“That, combined with the letter, and the [alleged] taped confession” and “the fingerprints all over Nicole’s house that they couldn’t match with anybody” could exonerate Simpson once and for all, Pardo claims, insisting, “You can’t get more blatant than what’s going on!”



As for Rogers’ motivation to come forward after all these years, Pardo says it’s a bit of twisted pride — and guilt.

“He wants me to get O.J. to forgive him,” Pardo says. “It ain’t gonna happen. Look what he’s done to [O.J.’s] life! Nothing [Rogers] says is gonna matter. O.J. told me, ‘It doesn’t matter what this guy says, I’m the killer [in the eyes of the public], and that’s the way it’s gonna be.”

At the time Rogers first made his claims, LAPD spokesman CommanderAndrew Smith told CNN, “The LAPD is quite confident that we know who killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. We have no reason to believe that Mr. Rogers was involved.”

 

[loyola llothta]

What?

what? i research this case up and down using logic, i don't take bullshyt doc's thats one sided, have you seen how to make a murderer?