[Enter Topic] Is Like Slavery...:snoop:

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

heard personal stories of those times. In fact most peoples introduction to slavery came through school books written by whites.

People that cling onto slavery, do so to make up for their daily failures.

my grandfather use to tell me about how his grandfather and his grandfather's brothers changed their last name after slavery ended. he also used to tell me a story about one of his great uncles that was lynched during reconstruction.....he used to tell his the one about the lynching on halloween

 

[Malik]

no I wasnt talking to you. unless this is your other alias?

I tried to get some stories from my grandparents about the mother land but it just ended in rambling that I couldnt really understand, you know, typical old folks speeches. So with that said I assume your grand parents are DEF not sharing what their grandparents mumbled to them when they were young, nor can they probably even remember....at the age that their at lol.

My bad then.

I'm just saying. Don't tell us something was so long ago when I can put my relatives faces to those time periods.

My mom was 16 when they killed King. My uncles were in school before Brown v. Board happened. My grandfather was one of those black men that fought in WW2 despite being treated like trash back home. My grandmother was a little girl when the Scottsboro Boys got thrown in jail and a grown woman when Emmett Till was murdered.


All I was saying is, the same way I can put my relatives faces to those fukked up periods, our older relatives had that linkage to earlier periods.

 

[Handsback]

When you think about blacks building the nation....and all the slave labor the largest coprs in America benefited from. And all the fukkkery up until the 80's.

Does it make sense for you to have to pay taxes?

I think we aren't getting out of paying taxes. I suppose there's an argument for tax exempt status for descendents of slaves as like a form of reparations but I won't be holding my breath. Heck a lot of lower income black households would probably be harmed by this kinda thing. No more tax refunds.

 

[Blackking]

I think we aren't getting out of paying taxes. I suppose there's an argument for tax exempt status for descendents of slaves as like a form of reparations but I won't be holding my breath. Heck a lot of lower income black households would probably be harmed by this kinda thing. No more tax refunds.

ideally we would also have free education without loans... which may led to more financial literacy..

which would lead to more people being educated enough to keep more money through out the year........ as opposed to you know.. buying food on a bridge card at wal mart.. with a smart TV on that same sales receipt

Plus "additional child tax credit", "first-time homebuyer credit" , etc..... you don't need to pay income taxes to get those types of shyts.

- source - done madd hood rat and stripper taxes claiming self employed. But also some people who didn't claim shyt really

 

[ELITE]

Someone needs to look up the meaning of 'Absolute'

 

[bigDeeOT]

I think most of those comparisons to slavery are indeed valid. The problem with most black folks is that they lack critical thinking skills, and the OP is proof positive of it.

When people compare same-sex marriage to slavery they obviously do not mean to say the oppression of homosexuals is comparable in MAGNITUDE to the oppression of blacks in slavery. Slavery is the worst form of oppression in the world and no one even tries to dispute this. What they mean is that the underlying CONCEPT is still the same. You have one group holding down another, for no good reason whatsoever. That's the whole point.

"E.W. Jackson says Great Society Programs were WORSE..... than slavery"

This again is proof positive that black folks have comprehension problems. That video is only 1min and 30 seconds long so it was easy to watch all of it and not at ANY point does he even IMPLY that the great society programs were worse than slavery. That's not even close to what he was saying.He simply said slavery did not break up the black family. He doesn't compare great society programs to slavery so obviously you just looked at the title and didn't bother to watch the video.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Clarence Thomas Compares Affirmative Action....to slavery

Ok I just read the article and this is further proof that you lack reading comprehension skills.

The article says

Thomas also repeatedly compared the arguments used in favor of affirmative action programs to the arguments used to justify segregation and even slavery.

“Indeed, the argument that educational benefits justify racial discrimination was advanced in support of racial segregation in the 1950’s, but emphatically rejected by this Court. And just as the alleged educational benefits of segregation were insufficient to justify racial discrimination then, see Brown v. Board of Education,” he wrote, “the alleged educational benefits of diversity cannot justify racial discrimination today.”

“There is no principled distinction between the University’s assertion that diversity yields educational benefits and the segregationists’ assertion that segregation yielded those same benefits,” he added.

He does NOT compare affirmative action to slavery. He said that the same arguments used in defense of segregation are being used in defense of affirmative action.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

I think most of those comparisons to slavery are indeed valid. The problem with most black folks is that they lack critical thinking skills, and the OP is proof positive of it.

When people compare same-sex marriage to slavery they obviously do not mean to say the oppression of homosexuals is comparable in MAGNITUDE to the oppression of blacks in slavery. Slavery is the worst form of oppression in the world and no one even tries to dispute this. What they mean is that the underlying CONCEPT is still the same. You have one group holding down another, for no good reason whatsoever. That's the whole point.

"E.W. Jackson says Great Society Programs were WORSE..... than slavery"

This again is proof positive that black folks have comprehension problems. That video is only 1min and 30 seconds long so it was easy to watch all of it and not at ANY point does he even IMPLY that the great society programs were worse than slavery. That's not even close to what he was saying.He simply said slavery did not break up the black family. He doesn't compare great society programs to slavery so obviously you just looked at the title and didn't bother to watch the video.

Stop

 

[Blackking]

I think most of those comparisons to slavery are indeed valid. The problem with most black folks is that they lack critical thinking skills, and the OP is proof positive of it.

maybe you're valid about some of your points. However, is there really a good reason to invoke slavery when speaking on all these issues ? Why is that needed, especially when speaking to black crowds?

That's condescending and see-through as fukk.

NTM - lol, I guess I was just being nice saying ur points might be valid. You're defending shyt for the sake of randomly dissing african american reading comprehension and to seem like you know what your talking about

Defending E.W. Jackson, SMH. He says that some groups are poison and Obama has Muslim swag?!? - whatever that means.
NTM his ideas and points only tell half the story --- and like you, that clearly shows a person who doesn't know what he's talking about.
He says gov assistance programs are what caused single parent homes and other issues in the black community - but not slavery, the mentality that comes from oppression, or jim crow and fbi infiltration.

"Slavery did not destroy the black family" You and him don't see how compound effects from history affected black people. This fakkit must have forgot that children , husbands and wifes were broken up and sold at will during slavery which started the break down and split of American black families.

 

[ghostwriterx]

"Slavery did not destroy the black family" You and him don't see how compound effects from history affected black people. This fakkit must have forgot that children , husbands and wifes were broken up and sold at will during slavery which started the break down and split of American black families.

c/s
That was one of the most cringe worthy things I've read on this site... this is Higher Learning?

 

[DEAD7]

c/s
That was one of the most cringe worthy things I've read on this site... this is Higher Learning?

Got evidence?

As far as I know, the black nuclear family was largely intact after slavery, with a higher rate of 2 parent homes than whites. It wasn't til the early 60's that we began to see the family breakdown plaguing our community(and the nation) today.
I know this doesnt fit the narrative you like...

 

[Blackking]

Got evidence?

As far as I know, the black nuclear family was largely intact after slavery, with a higher rate of 2 parent homes than whites. It wasn't til the early 60's that we began to see the family breakdown plaguing our community(and the nation) today.
I know this doesnt fit the narrative you like...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dv omino_effect

The stigmas, backlash. lack of skills and property, lose of collective identity and pride and overall mental destruction also happened in slavery.... and I guess you assume that children, men and women weren't sold separately during slavery.

Most stigma and backlash happened during Jim crow. Attacks on black men and lack of opportunity for black men also helped break down the fam. During the 60's all that shyt was in process --- just because social issues came in as a band-aid to try to help doesn't mean that those programs caused the issue. There is no evidence of that. That's why fakkits like him cling on to cringe worth talking points like - "those programs Forced and told black women ' you don't need no man blhahhhah" And BS like that.

I know this doesn't fir the narrative you like... But you can't hold on to it for the sake of simply dissing social programs and progressive initiatives.

and fyi,, neither narrative is good.

 

[DEAD7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dv omino_effect

The stigmas, backlash. lack of skills and property, lose of collective identity and pride and overall mental destruction also happened in slavery.... and I guess you assume that children, men and women weren't sold separately during slavery.

Most stigma and backlash happened during Jim crow. Attacks on black men and lack of opportunity for black men also helped break down the fam. During the 60's all that shyt was in process --- just because social issues came in as a band-aid to try to help doesn't mean that those programs caused the issue. There is no evidence of that. That's why fakkits like him cling on to cringe worth talking points like - "those programs Forced and told black women ' you don't need no man blhahhhah" And BS like that.

I know this doesn't fir the narrative you like... But you can't hold on to it for the sake of simply dissing social programs and progressive initiatives.

and fyi,, neither narrative is good.

Stating it was a domino effect isnt the same as proving it... but since i offered no evidence myself we will go with it(at face value).

The family breakdown occurred(and is still occurring) across the board.
If what you suggest is true, we would then need to explain why whites are suffering the same breakdown(albeit at a slower rate) as blacks... and so on for every race in America.
If i'm correct, the breakdown of the nuclear family(for everyone) remains consistent with my theory.

We have to decide whether we are going to accept the evidence or try to spin it to fit our narrative.

I for one am not surprised that instituting a govt program that replaces the father has resulted in fewer actual fathers...

 

[ghostwriterx]

Got evidence?

As far as I know, the black nuclear family was largely intact after slavery, with a higher rate of 2 parent homes than whites. It wasn't til the early 60's that we began to see the family breakdown plaguing our community(and the nation) today.
I know this doesnt fit the narrative you like...

at "largely intact after slavery"

Yeah you know aside from 200 years of physical/emotional trauma and brutality. I'm quite sure that had no long lasting effect on the black family structure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dv omino_effect

The stigmas, backlash. lack of skills and property, lose of collective identity and pride and overall mental destruction also happened in slavery.... and I guess you assume that children, men and women weren't sold separately during slavery.

Most stigma and backlash happened during Jim crow. Attacks on black men and lack of opportunity for black men also helped break down the fam. During the 60's all that shyt was in process --- just because social issues came in as a band-aid to try to help doesn't mean that those programs caused the issue. There is no evidence of that. That's why fakkits like him cling on to cringe worth talking points like - "those programs Forced and told black women ' you don't need no man blhahhhah" And BS like that.

I know this doesn't fir the narrative you like... But you can't hold on to it for the sake of simply dissing social programs and progressive initiatives.

and fyi,, neither narrative is good.

Well said. I'm convinced @DEAD7 is straight at this point.

 

[DEAD7]

I was actually curious to see if i was just completely wrong so i did some research(googling)