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you nikkas need an education, lol
The teen preg rate didn't go up though- it was already high pre 60's... and over all teen preg rate dropped 70-2000's. Out of wedlock birth went up in every group.... and affected the poor more.... and of course affected the black poor even more, but that wasn't solely due to welfare in shyt.
And the family broke down because of the downgrading of the male role in the black family which happened pre-1960 pre 1950 and pre liberal social programs in general. The only reason black women hoped on these programs is because the community was already shattered.
and as I stated previously It wasn't exclusively a black issue, it was a poor issue that affected blacks more because of self hate and lack of identity, no cultural connections like immigrants, and racial stigma attached that led to even less opportunity for their kids compared to other poor children.
I'm not pulling your leg, look at my post in the min wage, moral, and other threads... I'm not a liberal - these are just the facts. End of story.
you nikkas need an education, lol
The teen preg rate didn't go up though- it was already high pre 60's... and over all teen preg rate dropped 70-2000's. Out of wedlock birth went up in every group.... and affected the poor more.... and of course affected the black poor even more, but that wasn't solely due to welfare in shyt.
And the family broke down because of the downgrading of the male role in the black family which happened pre-1960 pre 1950 and pre liberal social programs in general. The only reason black women hoped on these programs is because the community was already shattered.
and as I stated previously It wasn't exclusively a black issue, it was a poor issue that affected blacks more because of self hate and lack of identity, no cultural connections like immigrants, and racial stigma attached that led to even less opportunity for their kids compared to other poor children.
I'm not pulling your leg, look at my post in the min wage, moral, and other threads... I'm not a liberal - these are just the facts. End of story.
compelling, but the numbers dont reflect that...
Now that doesnt mean that you are wrong... but it does mean you cant present it as fact... yet.
You have to prove it first.
I agree with you 100000% that it was economic issue... but you keep jumping back and forth between the economics of it(all true) and the race issue/slavery which would then force you to explain how the other racial groups experienced the same increases/decreases...
It would be more accurate to say(using your train of thought), that it was an economic issue that hit blacks harder because we were disproportionately poor. Then if we look at why blacks were so poor, then we get into slavery, and other shytty govt. policies.
The family breakdown itself though, was an economic issue, facilitated by the nanny state.
and i know your not liberal. You occasionally point the finger at govt. which no true liberal would ever do.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db89.pdfcompelling, but the numbers dont reflect that...
Now that doesnt mean that you are wrong... but it does mean you cant present it as fact... yet.
You have to prove it first.
I agree with you 100000% that it was economic issue... but you keep jumping back and forth between the economics of it(all true) and the race issue/slavery which would then force you to explain how the other racial groups experienced the same increases/decreases...
It would be more accurate to say(using your train of thought), that it was an economic issue that hit blacks harder because we were disproportionately poor. Then if we look at why blacks were so poor, then we get into slavery, and other shytty govt. policies.
The family breakdown itself though, was an economic issue, facilitated by the nanny state.
and i know your not liberal. You occasionally point the finger at govt. which no true liberal would ever do.
But anyway, check out the thread on China and government intervention with innovation.
If you have a point to make, speak directly, not in riddles.Somehow it's only because of welfare and medicaid, and not also because of America's changing ideas on marriage and the push for matriarchal households in the black community. Not because the black man was downgraded since slavery, jim crow etc.... and not because of The fact that black men were less able to provide for families (in comparison to others) during the 50/60's. Just like the unemployment rate for black young men more than double after the 60's had no affect at all...
That doesn't make any sense. How did the breakdown start to happen before the 50's? Where's your evidence? If the decline of the negro is NOT due to the creation of the welfare state, then you would see the black community in a worst position in generations that lived closer to the time of the emancipated slaves. Why is it that you have so many generations that aren't affected by 70% out of wedlock pregnancy rate and a high murder rate till after the creation of the welfare state? These are questions you will have a very difficult time answering.
The negro isn't forced to do anything. But the negro has been led to live in a matriarchal structure because of liberal welfare policies that provide a profit incentive for women to raise their children in single parent households.
Whats your point?
No one is saying it was SOLEY due to welfare. No one is denying racism or w/e. I am saying that out of all the factors you can blame for the plight of black america, the creation of the welfare state is one of the primary problems since that led to the disinegration of the black family. That, along with degenerate backwards ass black culture and you've got the perfect recipie for a community that has evolved BACKWARDS by every measure of social standards.Out of wedlock birth went up in every group.... and affected the poor more.... and of course affected the black poor even more, but that wasn't solely due to welfare in shyt.
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How did the male role in the black family degrade prior to 1960?
I don't care why black women hopped on the programs. The problem are the programs themselves.
It affected blacks more because the white liberal went on a campaign directly targeting blacks,saying they're all victims of the system.
This is why 95% of blacks have voted democrat in every single election. They don't have any political consciousness. All they need to hear is that the other party is racist, and they're all victims of white racism and the legacy of slavery. Nothing else matters. What a joke!!
"The impact of strong pregnancy prevention messages directed to teenagers has been credited with
the birth rate declines "
Govt. outreach
No, that does not dispute the fact that you had higher out of wedlock pregnancy rates and murder rates after creation of the welfare state. You can try and twist the words all you want and talk about how there were some secret subliminal problems or w/e, the facts don't support that. 70% is a lot bigger number than 20%.
"brotha" why are you so infatuated with making black ppl look bad? where are you getting your numbers from. no one's really getting married today. is that number only for blacks or whites included?
why do you feel the need to disguise yourself as black when its clear from your posts you aren't.
both black and white communities face the same problems even though the black community has it worse. but you're on the tip of my d1ck hard. hop off
"nicca".
"The impact of strong pregnancy prevention messages directed to teenagers has been credited with
the birth rate declines "
Govt. outreach
I have assigned myself as one of the chosen ones to hold a mirror to the face of black america. These are facts brother. I have no interest in making black people look bad. I have an interest in making black people see themselves for who they really are. To see themselves for what they have evolved into it. If there's ever gonna be a change in black america for the better, it starts with addressing the problems. And right now, 95% of negroes have no idea what the problem is: themselves.
Google the statistics. If you're trying to imply that white people have similar problems to black people, your wrong. The out of wedlock pregnancy rate for whites is no where near 70%.
Unfortunately you haven't met another black person who takes accountability for his actions. Every black person you know wants to believe he's a victim. I'm starting a revolution brother. This shyt has got to stop.
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