Elon Musk wants a free speech utopia. Technologists clap back.

Moose_Greyjoy

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I asked you what your intentions were in my first response.

If you're looking to limit free speech by introducing social accountability, just say that's what you want.

What you cannot do is act as though what you're proposing provides more freedom than an environment where people can post anonymously with certain restrictions.
l would like to see social media resemble real life human to human communication, that is all. I dunno how many people you interact with daily but I interact with many people daily everyday due to my job. I’ve had countless of respectful conversations with people who don’t believe in the vaccine while in the hospital I work at, and guess what I don’t call them “idiots”.
 

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nikka, Richard Spencer and the alt right lunatics are still on Twitter posting racial hatred every day. Yet Trump himself is banned on Twitter. There is an incoherent agenda here. If we wanna ban all racist hate speech let’s do that honestly let’s make that a rule… but Richard Spencer etc all of those racists who say black people are inferior are still today on Twitter saying horrible things while Russian news pages are banned.
Richard Spencer is old hat. No one pays him any attention, which is likely the reason he's still around. Russian news accoints are still up, they just get labled state sponsored media, which they are.
Twitter removing Trump arbitrarily

It wasn't arbitrary. Dude was pushing dangerous disinformation. It was a long time coming. He also never lost his @POTUS account.
 

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There's literally nothing bad faith about not taking someone seriously knowing that their goal is to push racist and white supremacist rhetoric. When they themselves have told you that :russ:

You have no idea what you're fukking talking about

It's the height of ignorance to not take someone seriously that wants to put forth rhetoric that could potentially harm non-white people. Plugging your ears and pretending you know what has been said and what will be said is a self imposed death sentence.

But your issue is slightly deeper, you're afraid that people who are ostensibly not as smart as you will see a thread about Tucker Carlson and be misled about what he's saying or even worse, might find it interesting. It's adorable that you can't see how this makes you look to the people you are attempting to "protect"
 
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I think some of these Black Elon stans think they're the exception to the rule...
:mjlol:

They'll literally ignore the stories of horrific racism black men and black women faced at Tesla factories and Elon's own racism just to ride a billionaire's coattails.

Dude just said I was a "Bigot" for being against white hate speech and rhetortic. It's either a bit or these dudes done feel completely down the well. It's ugly fam they think these racists are their friends.
 
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It's the height of ignorance to not take someone seriously that wants to put forth rhetoric that could potentially harm non-white people. Plugging your ears and pretending you know what has been said and what will be said is a self imposed death sentence.

But your issue is slightly deeper, you're afraid that people who are ostensibly not as smart as you will see a thread about Tucker Carlson and be misled about what he's saying or even worse, might find it interesting. It's adorable that you can't see how this makes you look to the people you are attempting to "protect"

You literally call me a bigot for being against racist hate speech. I'm sorry but that's hilarious nothing else you say matters after that my guy. Think about things before your type it out
 

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You literally call me a bigot for being against racist hate speech. I'm sorry but that's hilarious nothing else you say matters after that my guy. Think about things before your type it out

No, I'm calling you a bigot for believing that people aren't smart enough to read a thread about Tucker Carlson and reach their own conclusions about what it is he's saying. The thread is simply too dangerous and poses a threat to the dimwits amongst us.
 

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l would like to see social media resemble real life human to human communication, that is all. I dunno how many people you interact with daily but I interact with many people daily everyday due to my job. I’ve had countless of respectful conversations with people who don’t believe in the vaccine while in the hospital I work at, and guess what I don’t call them “idiots”.

Do you appreciate that what you want would result in more censorship than simply blocking bigoted trolls?
 
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No, I'm calling you a bigot for believing that people aren't smart enough to read a thread about Tucker Carlson and reach their own conclusions about what it is he's saying. The thread is simply too dangerous and poses a threat to the dimwits amongst us.

So you don't understand the meaning of the words you're using. Got it. That's all you had to say. :mjlol:
 

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Richard Spencer is old hat. No one pays him any attention, which is likely the reason he's still around. Russian news accoints are still up, they just get labled state sponsored media, which they are.


It wasn't arbitrary. Dude was pushing dangerous disinformation. It was a long time coming. He also never lost his @POTUS account.
Who decides though? Just because Richard Spencer isn’t popular he can stay on Twitter until he gets popular? What kind of logic is that?
 

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So you don't understand the meaning of the words you're using. Got it. That's all you had to say. :mjlol:

You continue to reveal exactly who you are with this type of personal attack. If you don't think some people aren't smart enough to be exposed to certain information without becoming radicalized, that's your opinion. I'm just pointing out that it's bigoted.
 

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Who decides though? Just because Richard Spencer isn’t popular he can stay on Twitter until he gets popular? What kind of logic is that?
Probably depends on how disruptive they are currently. :yeshrug:

TOS violations generally have to be pretty specific and get reported consistently for action to be taken. Remember there was an article where Twitter mods were saying how difficult it is to moderate right wing hate speech because so many politicians and media figures would be affected.
 

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Do you appreciate that what you want would result in more censorship than simply blocking bigoted trolls?
We gonna have to agree to disagree, because I don’t see how it would lead to more censorship. You can still say whatever you like, If you don’t have the balls to say it in public, then maybe you shouldn’t say it all…….just like real life:krs:
 
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