Elijah Muhammad is the greatest Black leader ever in North America

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no...:mjlol:


A guy that thought Black people some random light skin motherfukker Walllace Fard Muhammad is an incarnation of Allah...isn't the greatest Black leader ever...


The greatest Black leader ever would have to be Huey P. Newton.
 

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Yeah with regard to Garvey and Booker T, Garvey basically took what Booker T was talking about and took it international with the concept of pan africanism and removing colonialism in Africa, where Booker T was mainly local and concentrated strictly on us african americans. So I can understand why Booker T would use his resources to give Garvey a platform, to take it further than even he had envisioned.

As for the c00n Dubois, yep later in his life after he did what he did to destroy Garvey, publicly talk down Booker T, he realized appealing to whites and his integrationishm was a failure. After the did all the dirt he did. Shameful, unfortunately his integrationism/white acceptance string seems to thrive today in white liberal and black intellectual circles.

Thanks. I own some books that cover Washington's life and accomplishments but he's sort of the forgotten man in history. We know about Douglas, Garvey,Dubois, Malcolm, and Martin.

Wow..you minced no words about Dubois...
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The fact that he left America, frustrated..says it all though.
 

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I do get your point. Even "prime numbers" like Marcus Garvey......or say a James Brown in music...did have people who influenced them.

I'm not as familiar with Washington's legacy and impact.





I believe that later in life, Dubois saw how Garvey and Washington were right in many ways.
Yes. He appologized too.
 

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For real...how can the leader of an organization that killed Malcolm X be the greatest Black leader ever....

Was waiting for Motion to reply, but I have a comment about this.

For all the admiration I have for Malcolm X as a man and a leader, the way the problems with him and NOI played out was an internal conflict, nothing more. I have a personal opinion about why Malcolm was right to leave the organization, and how evil and dirty the NOI stooped to get him, but at the end of the day, it was all Nation of Islam business.

When Malcolm was an active member of the NOI, his BLOOD brother was kicked out / excommunicated for adultery. It might even have been the brother who visited him in jail and helped convert him. As per the rules of the NOI.....Malcolm turned his back on his OWN brother, as members couldn't communicate with those who were booted out (temporarily or permanently). I believe his brother eventually went insane (like their mother).

I write that not to disparage Malcolm X. I write it to show that he put the organization ahead of his flesh and blood. He walked the walk and talked the talk...moreso than any other member.
When he realized that he was under a death order he realized that devout followers would put the organization ahead of reason,logic, or friendship and carry out the order. NOI internal business.
 

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Its Martin :yeshrug:

Greatest orator, greatest mobilizer, the youngest, and not tethered to one ideology- he was evolving when given new information.

I know Black nationalist like to paint Garvey's ideology as the best and I like his framework but it was just as la la land as MLK's post racial/working class framework.
 
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