Eight Year Old Boy takes medication to delay puberty as he ponders his gender

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I never threatened mutilation on myself. Most children don't, even with exhibiting so-called "tomboyish" for girls or "sissy" behaviors for boys. You don't see any glaring red flags in that?

Uhh.. Have you not read my replies in here? I definitely do.

I was just trying to answer your question
 

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a few things...

The parents living situation is unique.
We can pretend that is a non factor, but it is a factor. Futhermore, impaired children think of different things differently. This kid could not speak for 3 years. He could only express himself in non verbal ways that he has learned from his lesbo parents.

The majority of gender confused children who threating harming themselves - have been mentally abused by parents of their perceptions of society. Their view is called cognitive dissonance. This lil boys should be allowed to run the show - and them allowing that in this situation is = to abuse.

We don't let children decide on anything. don't let them smoke cigarettes or get married, so y let them control a situation about being a girl/boy?

He first mentioned "i want to be a girl" with fukking sign language :comeon:

And these lgbt parents hopped on that shyt... cultivated that shyt........and focused in on it...... then put their hands up like "we didn't force it at all. He went from being a wierd kid, nothing like the other kids... to being Overly accepted and getting all the attention.
 

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Everything about this story is quite the opposite of every part of the teaching that gender is only a social construct. Gender as a social construct theory is purely about the fluidity of behavior and has nothing to do with physicality.

I just find it very difficult to buy this story. Is a pre-pubescent boy really liable to have this kind of outlook on all things gender related?
 

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Kids barge in and see things. It happens everywhere on this planet. Ask your parents and you will realize that you most likely did the same thing.
by and large kids learn gender id from their parents or their guardian. whether we teach them by example or by observation they learn from us. we teach them how to walk, eat, go to the bathroom, dress themselves, etc. they don't figure this stuff out on their own because they don't know what it means. if we're being ambiguous, unclear or confusing during their development then you best believe other problems will rear their ugly head somewhere along the way.

gender roles and identification is not something kids learn on their own and they shouldn't be left to learn on their own or to learn from experience.
 

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:dahell: Do you nikkas read?

It says several times in the article that the boy has many older brothers], meaning several that he grew/grows up with.

He's just a lil weirdo in the bunch, that's all.

I do. The article said that the parents have two older sons and grandchildren. Signaling to me that the other sons are far older and thus do not live with them and have not been growing up with the boy in that house. That would leave it to be just he, the child, and his lesbian parents. I could be wrong because they didn't give ages of the other children or explain that whole dynamic, but that's what I based that sentence in my post on.

I just find it very difficult to buy this story. Is a pre-pubescent boy really liable to have this kind of outlook on all things gender related?

I dunno that he has an outlook on all things gender related but I certainly see a lot fishy (and troubling) in this mutilation of his penis thing.
 

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by and large kids learn gender id from their parents or their guardian. whether we teach them by example or by observation they learn from us. we teach them how to walk, eat, go to the bathroom, dress themselves, etc. they don't figure this stuff out on their own because they don't know what it means. if we're being ambiguous, unclear or confusing during their development then you best believe other problems will rear their ugly head somewhere along the way.

gender roles and identification is not something kids learn on their own and they shouldn't be left to learn on their own or to learn from experience.

Agreed but they can learn very early that certain things belong to certain people because it's a matter of object recognition. They may not know the implications of a what a sexual organ is but they will learn very quick that they have something different.

If this wasn't the case how would explain a child knowing the difference between a parent and stranger? They learn that shyt very quickly. It's simple visual recognition.

Are you disputing this?
 

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by and large kids learn gender id from their parents or their guardian. whether we teach them by example or by observation they learn from us. we teach them how to walk, eat, go to the bathroom, dress themselves, etc. they don't figure this stuff out on their own because they don't know what it means. if we're being ambiguous, unclear or confusing during their development then you best believe other problems will rear their ugly head somewhere along the way.

gender roles and identification is not something kids learn on their own and they shouldn't be left to learn on their own or to learn from experience.
Correct.....and u think he didn't hear over the top convos about gay marriage and other issues important to that household?

Also, he couldn't talk or express himself. His older bothers were just walking around like regular men.. and he randomly uses sign language to say I'm a girl..... then expresses damaging behavior that usually is indicative of abused (over exposed is abuse) children.
 

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Agreed but they can learn very early that certain things belong to certain people because it's a matter of object recognition. They may not know the implications of a what a sexual organ is but they will learn very quick that they have something different.

i agree with that. what i'm saying is at such a young age they don't know what it means to be a "boy" or a "girl". they have no clue how boys should dress or act vs how a girl should dress or act. yes gender is part nature and nurture, but nurture can have a very strong influence during those developmental years especially if the parents aren't being consistent and clear.
 
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I again ask you not to insinuate that i'm daft or somehow incapable of understanding simply for not agreeing fully or partially with your viewpoint....you're more than welcome to have one and i even dig where you're heading since you decided to post a mostly neutral post...however you're still responding with assumption when no clear facts are given either way

are you aware? i'm fully involved in a local non profits mentoring program that pairs young children in the welfare/foster care system with adult mentors to help them overcome the abundant and often tragic horrors of their situation and station in life....im irritated i even put that personal bit out in the air because i do it for a purpose not for accolades but i offer it up as proof to you and others on here that you shouldn't assume you know about folks that you don't know about...thus my request for a respectful form of conversations...we can shoot the shyt all day so long as we can respectfully agree to disagree

Nah it's cool that you are doing just that for the kids but while the problem aren't being fixed in the social order of foster care the kids are the ones truly suffering. I don't know how many kids I talked to who have been through foster care( in and out many years) and there has been one incident I heard from them that the foster parents were "Good People". Foster Care needs to be distinguished like a top-secret clearance where the backgrounds of the parents are placed into question to see if they can adopt. shyt money should never be the motivation for shyt.

Why I address the issue.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/29/nation/la-na-child-sex-20130730

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/10/foster-homes-sex-offenders.html

http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/2...abuse-psychological-and-educational-problems/
 

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i agree with that. what i'm saying is at such a young age they don't know what it means to be a "boy" or a "girl". they have no clue how boys should dress or act vs how a girl should dress or act. yes gender is part nature and nurture, but nurture can have a very strong influence during those developmental years especially if the parents aren't being consistent and clear.


Agreed. I was merely addressing PartyHeart question about how the kid learned that a penis belongs to a boy. They observe and begin to understand things on their own sometimes. It doesn't automatically imply anything. If a child can understand that a certain face belongs to a caregiver and feels comfort about that recognition at 6-8 months old, is it that far off to think the boy can learn about sexual organ differences at whatever age he did? A baby may not understand the biological and social role of his or her mother but it understands her face is different than someone else's.

Only point I was trying to make. It doesn't factor to whatever else happened.
 

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I do. The article said that the parents have two older sons and grandchildren. Signaling to me that the other sons are far older and thus do not live with them and have not been growing up with the boy in that house.
One of them just celebrated their bar mitzvah, it even shows it in the picture. Do you know how old you have to be to celebrate a bar mitzvah?

Fact of the matter is, the parents, by your admission and the article's admission, have raised several normal kids that have not had any of these issues.

"Thomas" is just a lil weirdo and would probably be the way he is even without his parents. It says several times over that he is socially off when compared to those around him. If he is adopted and wasn't done so at a very young, infant age, he probably has a lot of baggage attached that does not come from his lesbian moms at all. There's no telling what he's been through.

You all are too quick to hate and judge on here. Y'all should really calm down and worry about yourselves because nothing you even type makes logical sense.
 
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One of them just celebrated their bar mitzvah, it even shows it in the picture. Do you know how old you have to be to celebrate a bar mitzvah?

I turned pictures off after some other threads so I don't see the pictures you're speaking of.

Fact of the matter is, the parents, by your admission and the article's admission, have raised several normal kids that have not had any of these issues.

The idea that because one child in a family is not abused that no other child couldn't be more unfounded of a statement.

"Thomas" is just a lil weirdo and would probably be the way he is even without his parents. It says several times over that he is socially off when compared to those around him. If he is adopted and wasn't done so at a very young, infant age, he probably has a lot of baggage attached that does not come from his lesbian moms at all. There's no telling what he's been through.

So you are agreeing that there is a possibility of abuse then. You just don't like that I am not foolishly excluding the parents from it.

You all are too quick to hate and judge on here. Y'all should really come down and worry about yourselves because nothing you even type makes logical sense.

Who is hating or judging? :what:
You have to be responding to another poster but quoting me because I've never let on any type of hate for anybody. I'm worried about the child, period.
 
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