Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox

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LOL I said that games from japan aint selling like that anymore, but they still have good quality. Sony is stubborn to force people to pay lots more for a system. Even a rumor like $899 is just ignorance at this point.

That dude newark made that up...Why are you still believing him?
 

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Well, they are gonna sell somewhere near 100 to 200 million of these things
You don't think price would come down on orders like that :stopitslime:
Why do ppl do that? See what price they would have to pay then think Microsoft would pay that anyway? they'd get a discount. Then if they want millions of them, they get a much deeper discount.
But maybe I'm speaking jibberish...

No, the ps3 has outshipped the xbox 360. When it comes to active systems, the xbox outnumber the ps3 and wii and wii-u combined (Tru Story)

If you really wanted to get to the bottom of this, just check out the monthly sales worldwide.
In the US xbox outsells the ps3 by millions of systems each year.
Then people who don't follow this shyt just blert out "Uh, japan"
Japan, the ps3 sells like 20,000 systems a month. Xbox is like 2,000
Thats not gonna make up the millions gap that the US and UK.
Where is these other countries were ps3 is murdering the xbox?

Show me, cuz I never seen it. Then at the end of the year sony reports shipped and dumbasses like yourself go :ooh:

You only know shipped, you don't care about sold. If you did, you'd know the truth
You would want to know the truth if you was winning so :ufdup:

Show me the numbers,cause I really don't care, I don't make a dime from either of these companys. if the Xbox isn't atleast 20 million ahead of the ps3 world wide then it I don't give a shyt and you shouldn't either.

Unless you can show me that the gap is comparable to the ps2 sells vs the GameCube then the gap is not significant enough to matter, fukk your little 1-2 million difference

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LOL I said that games from japan aint selling like that anymore, but they still have good quality. Sony is stubborn to force people to pay lots more for a system. Even a rumor like $899 is just ignorance at this point.

They didn't learn from the ps3, price is also a important factor
 

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Thats an opinion. One i dont agree with. :yeshrug: You look at the sales figures, i look at the games. Sony, releases, the games. Its unfortunate that many of them do not sell to certain expectations but i myself, enjoy them. When you're on the couch with the controller in your hand friend, thats all that matters, not sales figures. Who has the games. I like Japans contributions. Street Fighter/Marvel vs Capcom 3/Yakuza 3-4-undead/DemonSouls-Dark Souls/ Resident Evil 5-6/ Lost Planet 2/ Katamari/ Persona/ Ni no Kuni/ are but a small handful of examples of good japanese games this gen. If we took japanese games out of gaming, we'd be left with a very drab landscape. Please friend, do not act like the only games we need are the games that x box 360 has. Its silly. Go where the games are, ps3, or settle, xbox.
You just named a bunch of games that came out on xbox360 first :laff:
Yakuza is a game nobody gives a shyt about, Ni No Kuni you was bashing it, now you naming it :russ:
The fact you had to make a list like that proves everything. Moving right along...
We say last of us will be a game changer, they say it won't do halo numbers lol

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The problem is your naming a game you never played, and acting as if it already proved itself to be a great game? It looks like a slower paced uncharted which doesn't sound fun to me. Uncharted 3 was fun, but nobody played it. Somebody said he was busy playing some other game :dead:
The truth is regardless of how good or bad Last of US ends up being, you guys will and have already put it on this pedestal it hasn't even earned yet

If you didn't do this for every single ps3 exclusive you wouldn't be looking so fukking foolish each time a new ps3 exclusive comes out.
On xbox, if a game is good. Then we jock it. On ps3, as long as its exclusive?

Well, peep this...

Pre-E3 2007: Lair Near-Final Preview - IGN

Then lets add in all the other games that got the same treatment

Socom 4
Mod Nation Racers
LBP Racing
M.A.G.
Playstation All-Star Battle Royale
Killzone 3
Resistance 3
Ratchet & Clank
Kuni No Gameplay
Uncharted 3 (was abandoned dreamcast style)

All those and more were hyped up to being the best games ever
Every single one of those games are not highly regarded.
Uncharted/Killzone/R3esistance get mentioned the same way a game that has earned it gets hype...you know, Halo. But Halo sold more copies than all those games COMBINED :dead:

Thanks for playing!!!
 

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You just named a bunch of games that came out on xbox360 first :laff:
Yakuza is a game nobody gives a shyt about, Ni No Kuni you was bashing it, now you naming it :russ:
The fact you had to make a list like that proves everything. Moving right along...

The problem is your naming a game you never played, and acting as if it already proved itself to be a great game? It looks like a slower paced uncharted which doesn't sound fun to me. Uncharted 3 was fun, but nobody played it. Somebody said he was busy playing some other game :dead:
The truth is regardless of how good or bad Last of US ends up being, you guys will and have already put it on this pedestal it hasn't even earned yet

If you didn't do this for every single ps3 exclusive you wouldn't be looking so fukking foolish each time a new ps3 exclusive comes out.
On xbox, if a game is good. Then we jock it. On ps3, as long as its exclusive?

Well, peep this...

Pre-E3 2007: Lair Near-Final Preview - IGN

Then lets add in all the other games that got the same treatment

Socom 4
Mod Nation Racers
LBP Racing
M.A.G.
Playstation All-Star Battle Royale
Killzone 3
Resistance 3
Ratchet & Clank
Kuni No Gameplay
Uncharted 3 (was abandoned dreamcast style)

All those and more were hyped up to being the best games ever
Every single one of those games are not highly regarded.
Uncharted/Killzone/R3esistance get mentioned the same way a game that has earned it gets hype...you know, Halo. But Halo sold more copies than all those games COMBINED :dead:

Thanks for playing!!!
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Show me the numbers,cause I really don't care, I don't make a dime from either of these companys. if the Xbox isn't atleast 20 million ahead of the ps3 world wide then it I don't give a shyt and you shouldn't either.

Unless you can show me that the gap is comparable to the ps2 sells vs the GameCube then the gap is not significant enough to matter, fukk your little 1-2 million difference

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It is as big as you said. Its not 1/2million.
Try to follow me here. Microsoft reported systems sold
Sony and Nintendo did, then changed to reporting systems "shipped"
Microsoft later followed because ship numbers obvious are larger than sold numbers

Why do that sony/nintendo? Its politics. Stocks go up and down depending on reports. Sony was flirting with bankruptcy and pulled that move
All the other companies had to follow suit. They didn't do this last gen

Anywayz, once sony pulled that move. Places still reported systems sold (via estimates) And xbox always dominates in those reports.
So when this comes to light, ps3 supporters would then say "Uh.. but japan, and europe.. yeah!!!"

I say, ok... show me these numbers? Its NEVER happened.
All that gets reported is shipped. Its all good until I prove you wrong
Then its "Uh.. well, its its not 20mil then who cares :sadbron:

nikka, you brought up what system sold more. I just corrected you :umad:
The PROOF is if you look up "active systems" where the xbox has a 20/30million system lead in that department.
Xbox Live alone has like 50million active users.

Sony could tell you how many users they have over PSN, but since its a free account.. I could have 10active accounts on one PS3 (fatboi has 5)
So then, how about PSN+... how many active users are on there?
You know what sony said? WE NOT TELLING :deadmanny:

"We are extremely proud of the number," he said, before saying that, no, he wouldn't answer my question of whether the Plus subscriber count has seven figures or not. "We don't share that number."
They wouldn't even confirm 1million members :bryan: and you think they not playing games?
You see I'm knowledgeable and passionate about this stuff. I didn't just look this up, I know this stuff bruh. We can disagree, but don't be ignorant because of it. Sony lies to save face, when you guys do it, its just all kinds of sad (which is hilarious)
 

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I say that honestly and with sadness bruh. You know I was ready to "get the band back together" and everybody except you faked.
I ended up liking UC3 as time went on, but then once nikkaz started doing that level glitch bullshyt, I knew sony/naughtydawg would be slow to do something about it
I stopped playing for a month, went back. Same shyt was going on
The game just sits by my TV now with puppy dog eyes saying ":why: sony :why:"

I was already like fukk sony, but doing this was the last straw for me

I have no faith in UC4 or any other game via PSN until they do something about it
GDDR5 has nothing to do with PSN sony/fanboys :aicmon:
 

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It is as big as you said. Its not 1/2million.
Try to follow me here. Microsoft reported systems sold
Sony and Nintendo did, then changed to reporting systems "shipped"
Microsoft later followed because ship numbers obvious are larger than sold numbers

Why do that sony/nintendo? Its politics. Stocks go up and down depending on reports. Sony was flirting with bankruptcy and pulled that move
All the other companies had to follow suit. They didn't do this last gen

Anywayz, once sony pulled that move. Places still reported systems sold (via estimates) And xbox always dominates in those reports.
So when this comes to light, ps3 supporters would then say "Uh.. but japan, and europe.. yeah!!!"

I say, ok... show me these numbers? Its NEVER happened.
All that gets reported is shipped. Its all good until I prove you wrong
Then its "Uh.. well, its its not 20mil then who cares :sadbron:

nikka, you brought up what system sold more. I just corrected you :umad:
The PROOF is if you look up "active systems" where the xbox has a 20/30million system lead in that department.
Xbox Live alone has like 50million active users.

Sony could tell you how many users they have over PSN, but since its a free account.. I could have 10active accounts on one PS3 (fatboi has 5)
So then, how about PSN+... how many active users are on there?
You know what sony said? WE NOT TELLING :deadmanny:


They wouldn't even confirm 1million members :bryan: and you think they not playing games?
You see I'm knowledgeable and passionate about this stuff. I didn't just look this up, I know this stuff bruh. We can disagree, but don't be ignorant because of it. Sony lies to save face, when you guys do it, its just all kinds of sad (which is hilarious)


oh I brought up sells? Let's look at my original post




Barely lol why do nikkas keep bringing this up like the sells Arnt almost dead even

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Hmm where did I say ps3 sold more? I said exactly what I mean, the sells are too close to call, and we as gamers shouldn't even bring up sells at thia point cause the games are there, let's talk about the games, no not how much the games sold but the games themselves

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You just named a bunch of games that came out on xbox360 first :laff:
Yakuza is a game nobody gives a shyt about, Ni No Kuni you was bashing it, now you naming it :russ:
The fact you had to make a list like that proves everything. Moving right along...

The problem is your naming a game you never played, and acting as if it already proved itself to be a great game? It looks like a slower paced uncharted which doesn't sound fun to me. Uncharted 3 was fun, but nobody played it. Somebody said he was busy playing some other game :dead:
The truth is regardless of how good or bad Last of US ends up being, you guys will and have already put it on this pedestal it hasn't even earned yet

If you didn't do this for every single ps3 exclusive you wouldn't be looking so fukking foolish each time a new ps3 exclusive comes out.
On xbox, if a game is good. Then we jock it. On ps3, as long as its exclusive?

Well, peep this...

Pre-E3 2007: Lair Near-Final Preview - IGN

Then lets add in all the other games that got the same treatment

Socom 4
Mod Nation Racers
LBP Racing
M.A.G.
Playstation All-Star Battle Royale
Killzone 3
Resistance 3
Ratchet & Clank
Kuni No Gameplay
Uncharted 3 (was abandoned dreamcast style)

All those and more were hyped up to being the best games ever
Every single one of those games are not highly regarded.
Uncharted/Killzone/R3esistance get mentioned the same way a game that has earned it gets hype...you know, Halo. But Halo sold more copies than all those games COMBINED :dead:

Thanks for playing!!!
Dont forget starhawk and Twisted Metal :deadrose:. Twisted metal has petitions and everything against it.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Yes and No.

PS3 has a better CPU but Xbox has a better GPU.

PS3's CPU had to pull up the slack because of its weak graphics card.

PS3 complicated architecture is the reason why some cross platform games look and run better on 360 .

Honestly its Sony's 1st party devs talent that makes PS3 games look so good. :manny:

It was more or less how the two systems used their Ram where the difference was, both had 512mb but the 360 could use it dynamically while the PS3 could only devote a max of 256mb to the GPU. If a game didn't need a lot of CPU power the 360 could devote more ram to it's GPU since gpu/cpu shared the pool.

That's why 360 games almost always had better textures, if the Ps3 used ram the same way it would have crushed the 360 in all the graphic departments.
 

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You just named a bunch of games that came out on xbox360 first :laff:
Yakuza is a game nobody gives a shyt about, Ni No Kuni you was bashing it, now you naming it :russ:
The fact you had to make a list like that proves everything. Moving right along...

The problem is your naming a game you never played, and acting as if it already proved itself to be a great game? It looks like a slower paced uncharted which doesn't sound fun to me. Uncharted 3 was fun, but nobody played it. Somebody said he was busy playing some other game :dead:
The truth is regardless of how good or bad Last of US ends up being, you guys will and have already put it on this pedestal it hasn't even earned yet

If you didn't do this for every single ps3 exclusive you wouldn't be looking so fukking foolish each time a new ps3 exclusive comes out.
On xbox, if a game is good. Then we jock it. On ps3, as long as its exclusive?

Well, peep this...

Pre-E3 2007: Lair Near-Final Preview - IGN

Then lets add in all the other games that got the same treatment

Socom 4
Mod Nation Racers
LBP Racing
M.A.G.
Playstation All-Star Battle Royale
Killzone 3
Resistance 3
Ratchet & Clank
Kuni No Gameplay
Uncharted 3 (was abandoned dreamcast style)

All those and more were hyped up to being the best games ever
Every single one of those games are not highly regarded.
Uncharted/Killzone/R3esistance get mentioned the same way a game that has earned it gets hype...you know, Halo. But Halo sold more copies than all those games COMBINED :dead:

Thanks for playing!!!
In your quest to talk you missed the whole point of that exchange. Tone down the rabid beast like posting friend. He said no one is checking for Japanese games anymore. I listed games that the Japanese have made. You're out of bounds. Theres no point to you even posting negative remarks about Playstation because you've already admitted that you'll be purchasing a Playstation 4 at some point so :yeshrug: You have no reason to hate. Maybe you just have a reason to be demonic, friend. :sitdown:
 

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Sonys games inspire games for the future. 360 games are just smash and grab. Rubbish exclusives for the most part.
 

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They didn't learn from the ps3, price is also a important factor
The PS4/720 will not cost more than $500 for the high end model and almost positively both will offer a $399 entry model. Microsoft will probably have a bundle that requires a 2 year subscription to xbox live and cost $199.99. If SONY is paying attention they would offer the same thing with the PS4 and a PSN+ subscription (which is a better deal than LIVE anyway)

I would like to think a $300 model without a subscription would be possible, but the loss per unit would probably be too high for both at the jump. A model without a hard drive will not be an option this time around.

I personally don't give a fukk tbh, I am good with my handhelds. I know I won't be that far off with the prices for either console tho.
 

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The PS4/720 will not cost more than $500 for the high end model and almost positively both will offer a $399 entry model. Microsoft will probably have a bundle that requires a 2 year subscription to xbox live and cost $199.99. If SONY is paying attention they would offer the same thing with the PS4 and a PSN+ subscription (which is a better deal than LIVE anyway)

I would like to think a $300 model without a subscription would be possible, but the loss per unit would probably be too high for both at the jump. A model without a hard drive will not be an option this time around.

I personally don't give a fukk tbh, I am good with my handhelds. I know I won't be that far off with the prices for either console tho.

Just curious how do you know psn+ will be better then xbl 3.0 , more talking out your ass liquid? :snoop:
 

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So essentially they are admitting ps3 was wack and they going to take over the world with 4?

But will it have cross game chat????
 
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