‘Echo’ | Disney+ | Charlie Cox / Vincent D’Onofrio returning as Daredevil / Kingpin
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MajesticLion
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Wait what? Native American, deaf, amputee...where'd the gay angle come in? I missed that one.
he thinks she rejected the security guard feeling on her booty because shes gay. If she was straight she would've let out a deaf people moan,
MajesticLion
Superstar
I had a friend once describe this as "Chewbacca trying to sound sexy" and haven't been able to forget it since
Overall - 6/10
Echo's main (cinematic) thing is fighting - From Hawkeye, it made it seem like Echo was Taskmaster Lite (Taskmaster was ruined by Black Widow, and Black Widow been ruined by MCU).
In Hawkeye, she copies her opponent's moves. Cool power since modern cinema has turned every action hero into a 3rd rate Bruce Lee. And with that type of power that could get some nice Shaw Bros level choreography and camera work.
Honestly I could work with that. But at the same time, she's a woman (has 1/2 the upper body strength of a man) and she has one leg. A very smart fight choreographer could make that visually interesting. (There was some obvious points where she's getting manhandled) But there are plenty of One Armed, Deaf, Dumb, Blind martial artists from Shaw n'nem.
She could pull off the boot and let one of them dudes slide into a point stump to his death!
Let's see what dem boys at Mahvel cooked up...
Feige - "SEND IN THE CGI"
Intern - "They're on strike sir"
Feige - "SEND IN THE CGI SCABS!!"
Glowy hands, duplicates, wisdom of the ancestors, cutting checks to other Injuns...
Sonuvabeach...
Echo's Character - She's got a right to be mad. But I'm honestly not sure what she's "working out".
Not messing with her Granny, I get that. I still think that was some BS, and not resolved well. They had a fight, there was a sorry, but I really can't see a grandmother disowning her daughter's child because the dad was in the game.
Not dealing with her bestie? That makes zero sense.
Other Indian Characters - they was alright.
Choctaw Nation - It was cool to see that stuff, like it was to see the NY Indians in the What If Season 2 - and they did link it in at the end - but on the strength, it really felt like that "you need to read a book" style in Lovecraft Country. I have a sense we're gonna get some of that with the new season of True Detective, and I just don't ever see that land well.
The only Edutainment I recognize is from Boogie Down Productions.
Nowadays, one of the problems with introducing non-standard ethnic groups, is that every ethnic group is at one with the universe and nature, always regal and noble. And there's an under current of, not like you white devils, who messed it all up. (Apocalypto is something that went against the grain here)
It isn't fair that the writer/author/creator has to take into account ALL of popular media, but this is one of those things where you do have to remember the audience isn't a blank slate. There was a smidgen of a diff narrative during the mini basket lacrosse game, but that was it.
Kingpin - They needed to establish why Wilson looked at Echo as the daughter he never had, the daughter he could never had. It's sort of implied that he was trying to bring her back into the fold even after he shot his eye out, but she kept trying to kill him, and he kept trying to bring a hug to a knife fight. That's some real love!
Funniest Part of this whole show - 2 random trailer trash chicks acting as muscle to roller skate greaser
WTF?
Echo's main (cinematic) thing is fighting - From Hawkeye, it made it seem like Echo was Taskmaster Lite (Taskmaster was ruined by Black Widow, and Black Widow been ruined by MCU).
In Hawkeye, she copies her opponent's moves. Cool power since modern cinema has turned every action hero into a 3rd rate Bruce Lee. And with that type of power that could get some nice Shaw Bros level choreography and camera work.
Honestly I could work with that. But at the same time, she's a woman (has 1/2 the upper body strength of a man) and she has one leg. A very smart fight choreographer could make that visually interesting. (There was some obvious points where she's getting manhandled) But there are plenty of One Armed, Deaf, Dumb, Blind martial artists from Shaw n'nem.
She could pull off the boot and let one of them dudes slide into a point stump to his death!
Let's see what dem boys at Mahvel cooked up...
Feige - "SEND IN THE CGI"
Intern - "They're on strike sir"
Feige - "SEND IN THE CGI SCABS!!"
Glowy hands, duplicates, wisdom of the ancestors, cutting checks to other Injuns...
Sonuvabeach...
Echo's Character - She's got a right to be mad. But I'm honestly not sure what she's "working out".
Not messing with her Granny, I get that. I still think that was some BS, and not resolved well. They had a fight, there was a sorry, but I really can't see a grandmother disowning her daughter's child because the dad was in the game.
Not dealing with her bestie? That makes zero sense.
Other Indian Characters - they was alright.
- Small time hood rollerskating rink owner was whatever.
- Random white dude working there - huh.
- Biscuits - didn't care for him at all
- Granny - don't get her character. She had a right to be mad at Zach "go to Indian guy" Klarn, but that's about it.
- Grandpa - stock character, but he was at least funny. Still trying to hit that squaw was low key killing me. And running game on them white tourists...
Choctaw Nation - It was cool to see that stuff, like it was to see the NY Indians in the What If Season 2 - and they did link it in at the end - but on the strength, it really felt like that "you need to read a book" style in Lovecraft Country. I have a sense we're gonna get some of that with the new season of True Detective, and I just don't ever see that land well.
The only Edutainment I recognize is from Boogie Down Productions.
Nowadays, one of the problems with introducing non-standard ethnic groups, is that every ethnic group is at one with the universe and nature, always regal and noble. And there's an under current of, not like you white devils, who messed it all up. (Apocalypto is something that went against the grain here)
It isn't fair that the writer/author/creator has to take into account ALL of popular media, but this is one of those things where you do have to remember the audience isn't a blank slate. There was a smidgen of a diff narrative during the mini basket lacrosse game, but that was it.
Kingpin - They needed to establish why Wilson looked at Echo as the daughter he never had, the daughter he could never had. It's sort of implied that he was trying to bring her back into the fold even after he shot his eye out, but she kept trying to kill him, and he kept trying to bring a hug to a knife fight. That's some real love!
Funniest Part of this whole show - 2 random trailer trash chicks acting as muscle to roller skate greaser
WTF?
Diunx
Probably drunk
lmao wtf was that last episode? they give her a cool looking native suit, Kingpin fills the place with goons, this is R rated, was expecting a badass 20 minute rampage and instead we got a therapy session with whatever the fukk her powers are
Crazy how Marvel and Disney have no fukking clue how to make TV shows, really not hyped at all for Daredevil.
Also unless I missed some dad talk here or in Hawkeye, I don't get her whole family situation, 1st why does the father take her to NY instead of leaving her with the rest of the family if he knows he is gonna be doing criminal shyt, dude was a POS. But having said that, why did the grandma cut contact with the child? and why did the child ghost her child cousin?
Crazy how Marvel and Disney have no fukking clue how to make TV shows, really not hyped at all for Daredevil.
Also unless I missed some dad talk here or in Hawkeye, I don't get her whole family situation, 1st why does the father take her to NY instead of leaving her with the rest of the family if he knows he is gonna be doing criminal shyt, dude was a POS. But having said that, why did the grandma cut contact with the child? and why did the child ghost her child cousin?
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Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
Breh.... I always base how bad a comic book movie is on how much this woman loves it. This woman loved WW84, all the Fox X-Men movies (every single one, even the terrible ones) and she thinks Venom is one of the best superhero movies ever made.
Take from that what you will
I'm just telling you how I gauge it.
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
Is no one in here concerned that @Bryan Danielson came in here on the very first day and then scurried off never to be seen again?
I guess he's the Marvel writer that wrote the part about DD & Echo fighting and then DD just running in the middle of the fight
I guess he's the Marvel writer that wrote the part about DD & Echo fighting and then DD just running in the middle of the fight
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Is no one in here concerned that @Bryan Danielson came in here on the very first day and then scurried off never to be seen again?
I guess he's the Marvel writer that wrote the part about DD & Echo fighting and then DD just running in the middle of the fight
Na…… per coli…. I’m nothing to be concerned about
Plus it’s NFL playoffs and that’s the most important thing on deck
With that said
Lol
But I thought this was what everyone wanted?
Not too many jokes?
Violence
Blood
Action
Murder
Cursing
Blood
What’s the problem?
I just don’t feel like watching this
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
I couldn't get past ep 2. This is the first marvel show that I completely gave up on. I will never finish this.
Scustin Bieburr
Baby baybee baybee UUUGH
This would be dope. Daredevil has already made an appearance so it would be great to see him show up but actually put in work and be a genuinely dangerous character. I don't know wtf they were thinking putting him in the Hawkeye spinoff getting hoed out by a teenage girl. This is a man that boxed with captain America and gave Spiderman that work. Not a mutant, no super soldier serum, just straight hands. And he's been to jail and took down real killers.
And he gets slapped around by a kid? EMBARASSING. Disney needs to make us forget about that shyt.