Dwyane Wade's former son Zion is now his transgender daughter Zaya

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No my guy, because what Wade does with his family is his and his family’s business.

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Look Imma stop you right here

If a child goes hungry and is starving to death is that his family business or does CPS step in and take the child from the parents custody ?

OR

If a man abuses or rapes his kids is that his business or does CPS step in and he get arrested when they find out?


And if you believe that it is his business why would we make laws to protect children?

No need to respond to the rest you obviously a sick individual who condones child abuse and rape because what goes on in his home is his business. You sick fukk.
 

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What should he have done tho?
First he should have been a father and not let some hollywood weirdo thot expose his son to that trans bullshyt and sexualize him, while he is in adolescence. Second if this shyt came up he should have told him the truth, you aren't a girl and saying it over and over will never make you one.

You are a boy act like one and you will as long as you live under my roof.
 

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Body dysmorphia is something different (people with anorexia often experience this).

What you’re talking about is gender dysphoria (or what used to be called gender identity disorder), which is largely debated in psychology circles.
No this is body dysmorphia.
 

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Modern society accepting this as normal behavior.

Being gay, is one thing. Claiming to be something that is against your biology? "I'm a heterosexual woman in a man's body? Or I'm a gay woman"......this is new in the grand scheme of modern times. Social constructs or not, this kind of thing was not out on the open. in this world of social media influenced egomaniacs, you cant with a straight face say some of these T kids won't claim their parents did this for attention.

What happen with telling kids love yourself. To now becoming, If you dont? Change it. This is a slippery slope with the potential for long term repercussions.
I see your point regarding the slippery slope—I often wonder about that too. But I don’t think we should act like nikkas haven't been dressing up as women and women haven’t been passing as men throughout history. It’s just now that things are more accepted that trans folks are coming out into the open.
 

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There's a huge difference between gay and transgender. Gay is attracted to the same sex. Transgender is transitioning or preferring to be known as the opposite gender.
Even then does it matter? We won't have any contact with this kid ever. We won't ever have to worry about confusing pronouns or none of that shyt. The only people who would have to deal with it is the other kids at the expensive private school they go to.
 

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YOU CANT BE DEFINITIVE IF U WERENT PLACED UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES

CHILDHOOD TRAUMA HAS A MUCH STRONGER EFFECT THAN U REALIZE

YOU AND I DIDNT GO THROUGH THAT SO WE DONT KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE

IF YOUR MOTHER RAISED YOU CONVINCING YOU THAT YOU WERE PART VAMPIRE, YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY BELIEVE HER.. EVEN AT THE AGE OF 12. IF THATS WHAT U WERE TAUGHT THEN IT WOULD BE ALL U KNOW....

NOW OF COURSE EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT, BUT BECAUSE WE WERENT RAISED THAT WAY THEN WE CANT SAY HOW IT WOULD HAVE AFFECTED US PSYCHOLOGICALLY.
I’m not even talking about parents forcibly convincing kids that they should be trans. If that is even a thing that is happening, that’s a different topic.

I am wondering if there are “normal” straight cisgender adults who would have considered a sex change in their youth if it had been available and/or acceptable. In other words, social taboos or lack of parental permission were the only things that stopped them. To me, that seems very unlikely.
 

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I’m not even talking about parents forcibly convincing kids that they should be trans. If that is even a thing that is happening, that’s a different topic.

I am wondering if there are “normal” straight cisgender adults who would have considered a sex change in their youth if it had been available and/or acceptable. In other words, social taboos or lack of parental permission were the only things that stopped them. To me, that seems very unlikely.


IF THATS WHAT U MEANT THEN OBVIOUSLY NOT, BUT THATS NOT WHATS HAPPENING HERE....

THIS KID WAS GROOMED TO BE TRANS. GABBY WAS TAKING HIM TO GET HIS NAILS DONE AT 4 YEARS OLD, HAD HIM AT PRIDE RALLIES AND ALL TOO

THATS TRAUMA AT ITS FINEST AND FRANKLY, SEXUALIZING A CHILD IN ANY WAY SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS CHILD ABUSE......THE WAY THAT KINDA SHIIT AFFECTS A DEVELOPING BRAIN IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS THAN OUR HOMO DRIVEN SOCIETY CARES TO ADMIT.
 

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One reason why the suicide rate is high with transgenders is because they regret the decision, especially if they have the operation changing their genitals. This isn't about openness. This shyt just isn't biology. I always laughed at the people who'd try to bring up animals having homosexual acts too, like penguins or lions. Well lions did it for dominance. Penguins did it because there were no females around to care for the kids. As soon as female penguins came back around, there were even male-female pairs and all the male-male ones went away.
 

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I don't get this. Are you saying it is possible your dad could have influenced you into being gay?


I HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE I WASNT RAISED LIKE THAT....

BUT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO DENY THAT PEOPLE WHO WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED AS A CHILD HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF BEING GAY OR LESBIAN, THEN U ARE LYING TO YASELF.

PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA CAN ABSOLUTELY AFFECT SEXUALITY

IF UR STANDING WIT THE QUEER CROWD N TRYNA CLAIM ALL HOMOS AND TRANSEXUALS ARE “BORN THAT WAY”, THEN U ARE DENYING STATISTICAL EVIDENCE AND COMMON SENSE ALTOGETHER.....

I DUNO WHAT WOULDVE HAPPENED TO ME IF I WERE GROOMED TO BE A WOMAN, IM JUST GLAD I WASNT.
 

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I see your point regarding the slippery slope—I often wonder about that too. But I don’t think we should act like nikkas haven't been dressing up as women and women haven’t been passing as men throughout history. It’s just now that things are more accepted that trans folks are coming out into the open.
Its only now, men and women can transition. You're butchering your body because you cant accept it? Cross dressers & the like have always been there. None of that is new. A 12 year old? Telling you they want to take hormones & alter themselves? It's one thing to grow hair or change your dress code.

If your 12 year old girl tells you she knows shes ready to be a mom, & is trying to get pregnant? The point is, this is entering slippery slope territory on what decision a child can make.
 

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what makes a man, a man and a woman, a woman? How does a 12yr old boy knows what it feels like to be a women? There has to be more to being a woman than what we see on the surface right? how does a 12yr old not only come to that conclusion, but can express that as, "finding their truth" when they have no way of verifying what that truth is?

another question for you, since we've differentiated sex & gender, right? we can agree that gender is a construct created by us that is not only fluid, but ever changing, right? If i have a son, but wanted a daughter, dont i have the right to give the newborn a "girl" name and raise my child as if it were my daughter since gender is something that can always be changed?

Since gender identity is fluid so a person finding their truth isn't some final statement on what they truly are gonna end up becoming, Zaya is actively searching and right at this moment this is her choice with D Wade & Gabby trying their best to help her along the way. What makes a man a man and a woman a woman on how society treats both men and women where if we are a biological sex we must conform to this specific gender role, Zaya has chosen her gender role based on socialization and how society treats girls in their gender role

What's wrong with the second part is you are imposing how you want your child to be instead of it naturally coming to them deciding on what their gender identity is going to be.
 
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