Dune director Denis villenueve says marvel movies are cut and paste of others

[Luke Cage]

Superman with Reeves is a classic. Batman and Batman Returns are great in their own right as well and we're stylistically different than anything we had saw up until then. Marvel has a very basic formula that's assembly line like. They don't allow directors to take risks which is why so many have walked away. The films make money and are etched in pop culture, but they aren't good movies outside of a handful. Most are very forgettable because they play it too safe.

It's supposed to be a formula, the mcu is a continuing series. You just gave a pass to batman and batman returns due to it being sequels. This is the same thing it's just ongoing like it is in the comics. this is a film series based on serial comicbook series.there may be slight creative differences between directors but overall it's supposed to follow the same formula. making everything drastically different and yet trying to tie them together into a coherent continuity would be stupid. (see the most recent star wars trilogy) This is how its always been. they just mad this particular series happened to be successful and maintain it's popularity, whereas most people jumped off the bandwagon after supeman 3 back in the day. putting richard pryor as himself in the movies an shyt, those movies were bad, but directors didn't care to comment on them because they were happy that their 23rd movie about mafia figures or WW2/Vietnam or secret agents was selling more.

The reason you don't see people calling yet another scorsese movie about mafiosos starring deniro formuliac is bacis he isn't running the box office the whole year, The reason they don't call tom cruise playing another spy action thriller formuliac is because he is not dominating the box office the whole year. the list goes on. all this has nothing to do with formula and everything to do with success

 

[KalKal]

To be fair, the quote in the twitter link doesn't actually match the title of this thread. The quote says:

""There are too many Marvel movies that are nothing more than a cut and paste of others"

That's NOT the same thing as saying "marvel movies are cut and pase of others".

The way they op edited it changes the meaning.
E.g., I can totally agree that a movie like "Guardians if the Galaxy II" was a rehash, and still disagree that ALL Marvel movies are cut-and-paste.

 

[ciubaca]

Alien/robot invades earth.... they beat the avengers the first time around . The avengers are at a low point...a fake death/ an insignificant character dies...builds them back up. They rise to the ocasion...beat the alien/robot (ny survives) ....the end...2 billion dollars

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Its the same shyt every time. Hes right. Especially with origin movies.

 

[ThirdAct]

It's supposed to be a formula, the mcu is a continuing series. You just gave a pass to batman and batman returns due to it being sequels. This is the same thing it's just ongoing like it is in the comics. this is a film series based on serial comicbook series.there may be slight creative differences between directors but overall it's supposed to follow the same formula. making everything drastically different and yet trying to tie them together into a coherent continuity would be stupid. (see the most recent star wars trilogy) This is how its always been. they just mad this particular series happened to be successful and maintain it's popularity, whereas most people jumped off the bandwagon after supeman 3 back in the day. putting richard pryor as himself in the movies an shyt, those movies were bad, but directors didn't care to comment on them because they were happy that their 23rd movie about mafia figures or WW2/Vietnam or secret agents was selling more.

The reason you don't see people calling yet another scorsese movie about mafiosos starring deniro formuliac is bacis he isn't running the box office the whole year, The reason they don't call tom cruise playing another spy action thriller formuliac is because he is not dominating the box office the whole year. the list goes on. all this has nothing to do with formula and everything to do with success

 

[Max.]

Alien/robot invades earth.... they beat the avengers the first time around . The avengers are at a low point...a fake death/ an insignificant character dies...builds them back up. They rise to the ocasion...beat the alien/robot (ny survives) ....the end...2 billion dollars

So spot on lol

 

[Luke Cage]

 

[Dwight Howard]

This is like an underground rapper calling out a mainstream rapper..All for attention

Or maybe just maybe. Talented directors just aren't that impressed

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

C'mon fam, you know Feige ain't giving any director the keys. Maybe the keys to the basement apartment...maybe. Regardless of the talent of the director, the overarching storyline and plan for the Marvel films takes precedent. I've evolved to not only accept but also appreciate that from them. It's how you avoid Star Wars sequel issues. If your aim isn't to necessarily make defining singular movies, but instead make a very connected universe, one figurehead at the helm who reigns in his directors makes sense. Is it my cup of tea, he'll nah, but I get it. I'm all about directors having full creative control. We don't get a Logan otherwise. We don't get the most recent Suicide Squad, otherwise. But Feige being so pervasive in every aspect of the MCU is how we got what I consider the biggest and most successful undertaking in movie history with everything up to Endgame.

Breh... i meant they'd give him a movie lol. They gave Coogler a movie and Zhao a movie.. they are both very accomplished visionary directors like Denis. They just have to sacrifice some to fit into the Marvel template.

They'd give Denis a movie.. but maybe he doesn't wanna compromise his vision on things.. can't say i blame him.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Or maybe just maybe. Talented directors just aren't that impressed

What about the other Marvel directors do they all suck?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

These filmmakers act like they doing God’s work or something …like sit yo bytch as down and make some films

better hope that remake of Dune ain’t trash

they've been making comicbook movies since the 1970s. only reason people feel the need to be vocal of their distaste in them now is because they're jealous of the attention the genre gets now.
None of these directors were complaining when Christopher Reeves or Michael Keaton was on top of the box office. and none of them say no when offered their own sci fi franchise at various points in their career.

He's pulling a Kanye or Trump. Clown the winners for being illegitimate before they actually win.

I was excited for Dune but I'm thinking its going to hot trash now. He's coppin pleas and throwing rocks at the throne before his movie even comes out. Insecurity.

These posts have no thought... Basic Twitter babble "he must be a hater." You all sound about 12-years old but you're not because you joined a decade ago so that makes it even scarier. A director offers a critique of something you like and you lash out like a child would

 

[Goombreh]

 

[obarth]

Sooner or later we all see who the prophet is

I hate you

But not really, doe. Still

 

[Dwight Howard]

they've been making comicbook movies since the 1970s. only reason people feel the need to be vocal of their distaste in them now is because they're jealous of the attention the genre gets now.
None of these directors were complaining when Christopher Reeves or Michael Keaton was on top of the box office. and none of them say no when offered their own sci fi franchise at various points in their career.

Maybe cause the movies back then were far less formulaic than they are now. Yall reaching with this jealousy angle. Denis could direct a marvel film right now if he wanted to. He clearly has no interest in doing so. Id assume many directors don't respect the laziness of many marvel films or the fact that they get the budgets they get.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Maybe cause the movies back then were far less formulaic than they are now. Yall reaching with this jealousy angle. Denis could direct a marvel film right now if he wanted to. He clearly has no interest in doing so. If assume many directors don't respect the laziness of many marvel films or the fact that they get the budgets they get.

Coogler/Zhao and others have gotten Marvel movies.. no doubt Denis would get one. Maybe he just doesn't wanna make the same movie that's been made a couple dozen times in the last ten years?