Draymond: “Old fvcks” need to accept Bron>>>MJ

[GOATpernick]

You kinda making his point. Woziak had the most impact because of his positioning in time, being there at the forefront early on. But does that make him an objectively better engineer than anyone else? He left Apple in 1985 and started up something like half-a-dozen new companies since then, I don't think any of them lasted even five years.

Malcolm Gladwell has a great essay about Bill Gates and how many things had to come together to ensure that he was uniquely positioned to be that guy. There might have been plenty of other people who could have done the same thing, but we'd never know because the others didn't get the particular opportunities at the right time.

What else do the dark corners of the web know about Gladwell?

 

[Roland Coltrane]

To be fair Jordan never had to guard anyone as good or better than him. It's easy to look like a superb defender when guys aren't nearly as talented as you.

dumbass you just proved MJ stan's point

 

[inndaskKy]

You kinda making his point. Woziak had the most impact because of his positioning in time, being there at the forefront early on. But does that make him an objectively better engineer than anyone else? He left Apple in 1985 and started up something like half-a-dozen new companies since then, I don't think any of them lasted even five years.

Malcolm Gladwell has a great essay about Bill Gates and how many things had to come together to ensure that he was uniquely positioned to be that guy. There might have been plenty of other people who could have done the same thing, but we'd never know because the others didn't get the particular opportunities at the right time.

Today's engineers at Apple work in large groups distributing the work though. Are we really sure a single one of them right now could even build the og Apple computers that Wozniak made without using a colleague or the internet?

 

[Real]

Mj didn’t have to beat the greatest team ever assembled because he was on the best team ever assembled because of him

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Today's engineers at Apple work in large groups distributing the work though. Are we really sure a single one of them right now could even build the og Apple computers that Wozniak made without using a colleague or the internet?

You mean can the average engineer at random do it, or are you asking whether some can do it?

Of course some can do it, it's not like everyone at Apple is some career anonymous guy. There are hundreds with insane skills who move in and out between high-salary jobs with the big places and then do their own startups and such. Woz came from an era where only a few thousand people had access to that sort of technology (which is what Gladwell talks about), so of course a few like him, Jobs, Gates, and Allen end up on top. Whereas now you have millions who grow up with those opportunities, you really don't see how you're now gonna have thousands of Wozniaks within that large a talent pool?

 

[inndaskKy]

You mean can the average engineer at random do it, or are you asking whether some can do it?

Of course some can do it, it's not like everyone at Apple is some career anonymous guy. There are hundreds with insane skills who move in and out between high-salary jobs with the big places and then do their own startups and such. Woz came from an era where only a few thousand people had access to that sort of technology (which is what Gladwell talks about), so of course a few like him, Jobs, Gates, and Allen end up on top. Whereas now you have millions who grow up with those opportunities, you really don't see how you're now gonna have thousands of Wozniaks within that large a talent pool?

Talent pool was smaller but arguably their passion levels were higher. Today's people are more about the career and were never challenged by a lack of resources to get creative to the same degree. But of course it's conceivable there are some exceptions among such a large pool.

What is not conceivable is Bron not choking under the same conditions/pressure that Jordan played through

 

[Shadow King]

Draymond is an nba player. He knows way more about ball than Coli brehs

Only applies when the opinion works against LeBron, breh you know better

 

[Shadow King]

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Talent pool was smaller but arguably their passion levels were higher. Today's people are more about the career and were never challenged by a lack of resources to get creative to the same degree. But of course it's conceivable there are some exceptions among such a large pool.

What is not conceivable is Bron not choking under the same conditions/pressure that Jordan played through

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

There’s a reason he’s labeled the king

 

[Diondon]

dumbass you just proved MJ stan's point

Lebron is better than MJ because he plays against players just as good as him where as Jordan was simply better than everyone else
These nikkas are retarded.
MJ never had to beat the Monstars because he WAS the Monstars.

 

[Coli Hoecomb]

Lebron is better than MJ because he plays against players just as good as him where as Jordan was simply better than everyone else
These nikkas are retarded.
MJ never had to beat the Monstars because he WAS the Monstars.

It’s Coli Bronhive logic breh. The mental gymnastics are amazing.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

To be fair Jordan never had to guard anyone as good or better than him. It's easy to look like a superb defender when guys aren't nearly as talented as you.

There was no one as good or better than him

Are you saying bron had to guard players as good or better than him? With that I agree

 

[Osmosis]

MJ stans are such casuals

 

[Brandsdale]

one has a better resume (MJ)

the other is slightly better athletically (bron)

only one of them is the better closer and i think thats where the debate ends

 

[Roid Jones]

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