Drake stans (aka b!tch n!ggas) are the worst stans in hip hop history...it's official. FACTS.

[Billy Ocean]

Speaking specifically on his feature “Raw Hide,” Meth explained why RZA and GZA had to take on rhyme duties for the 1995 LP. “The majority of the verses on that album are old RZA rhymes and GZA rhymes,” he said. “’Approach the school, 9:30, you’re late,’ that’s RZA’s shyt. I heard that shyt when I was 14 years old. That whole, ‘Easy on my balls, they’re fragile as eggs,’ nikkas said that in a rap battle in fukking 1989.

“Dirty took all their shyt and made it his own and GZA ain’t say shyt,” he continued. “Most of [Dirty’s verses] was GZA’s shyt. I remember GZA and ODB got in an argument one night and GZA was like, ‘nikka most of that shyt you say on your fukking album is mines anyway!”

He did state that ODB wrote some of the songs, including “Brooklyn Zoo,” and stated that he himself wrote the first verse on Ghostface Killah’s “Cherchez La Ghost.”

i guess method man is a pedo crackhead making up lies too

seems like everyone was recycling and ghostwriting each other's shyt

Breh, you trying too hard.

 

[ISO]

Billy Ocean you my nikka respect you as a head and poster but you're misinformed on how much Drake had written for him, again a credited writer is not a ghostwriter. Nikkas are acting like QM wrote entire songs and the whole IYRTITL mixtape.

 

[blackslash]

The emphasis on hooks is a relatively recent phenomenon. Maybe a decade plus? Were we really talking about a "hook game" prior to 50? Ultimately, it doesn't really factor in.
I also disagree with your assertion that GOATS must have the "great" ability to make hits. A degree of commercial success is certainly a prerequisite, but at the end of the day, it's one of the least, if not the least, important factor. There isn't any correlation between making hits and being a GOAT emcee. Unless you are willing to throw G Rap under the bus.

Breh u are literally moving goal posts for ur favirile rapper..
Hooks are designed to be the most memorable part of a song
that's just fact, hence the term "hook"
A repetitive section of a song meant to HOOK listeners in
ur actually going to sit here and tell me there's no problem with Mc's getting help with hooks
MC'S jobs are to control the crowd..in shows the part of the song that the crowd participates in the moSt is the damn hook.
But u are rlly trying to sit here and tell me that there's nothing wrong with having another nikka write a rapper's hooks?

U and dese drake stans tryna defend dis sht are all the same..dikkrriding ass nikkaz
acting like it's all cool to have ya hooks written by other nikkaz

Gtfo my face u dead ass got me aggy with yo dumass fake ass post b

 

[charmander]

Having someone in your crew suggest you change a line or two in a verse vs. reciting an entire verse that someone recorded a reference track for? As Nas said, there goes a loud difference.
And Ghost didn't say Perb wrote a verse, he explicitly said the extent of his contribution was a couple of lines. The "even if" part was a hypothetical. Ghost was basically saying, even if Perb wrote some verses he still ain't shyt.

meth confirmed he wrote the first verse of cherchez le ghost tho

 

[Anti-Anime]

 

[hex]

besides, ghost even admits in those quotes how he lifted bars and verses and arrangements from superb and other nikkas in the studio....doesn't sound much different than what everyone is mad at drake for

Breh, Superb actually went on a campaign to drum up interest in his story. Ok cool. We all waited for him to produce proof of what he was saying. He never did. He just cut WWE style promos talking about he was gonna show the world....then faded into obscurity. So the stuff you're pointing out ain't unknown....it's just that a claim was made, and never proven.

Wu-Tang been giving each other lines since day 1. Ghost got the first couple bars from "Cherchez LaGhost" from Meth, for example. That's never been a secret.

Drake got an entire reference track out there. So right off the bat we're talking about apples and oranges.

As far as Dirty, dude was never considered the GOAT by his fans. Nor put in any serious rap discussions as "that dude". He was one of the lesser members of Wu.

Drake is supposedly that dude. He's not the 5th or 6th dopest guy in his crew. He is the star of OVO.

meth confirmed he wrote the first verse of cherchez le ghost tho

The song Meth wrote is nothing like Ghost's. Both tracks have been on the 'net for a good 10ish years. You can compare them right now if you want.

Fred.

 

[charmander]

Breh, you trying too hard.

if we drawing a line in the sand on ghostwriting not being hip-hop, we can't make exceptions just because they legends

ghost spit an entire meth verse verbatim on cherchez le ghost, that's confirmed fact

who knows what else he had help with...but where there's smoke there's fire

 

[I Lord Justice]

Sh!t is ridiculous. I just went through a thread where a bunch of his b!tch made stans and apologists had the gall to claim that he's winning and more popular than ever because Flex pump faked and Meek ain't drop a response to quite possibly the weakest diss/response track aimed at another rapper in hip hop history. It's discouraging because I actually witnessed some cats I thought were credible posters in there co-signing the sh!t. How is it possible that you can call yourself an avid hip hop fan and you can claim Drake is winning in this situation?

Facts:

1. Drake got exposed for having ghostwriters.
2. Drake doesn't deny having ghostwriters.
3. Drake drops the weakest track I've heard all month in response to being exposed.

Flex promised something and didn't deliver...so fvcking what? Flex BEEN a corn. Meek ain't drop a diss track yet, but it's just been a couple days since that weak ass Charged Up sh!t dropped. I personally feel that that track was so weak I wouldn't even be mad if Meek did'nt even respond to that garbage. Meek still wins because Drake got exposed as a fraud and responded back with . Fvck what he's doing on Twitter. Meek been tweeting dumbass sh!t on Twitter since he started that account.

Drake...he's basically an R&B singer now. I don't ever wanna hear this n!ggas name mentioned with credible MCs again. If ya'll wanna keep on bringing up that R&B singers, rockstars, comedians, etc.. have their sh!t ghostwritten ALL the time then go ahead but DON'T try to place this n!gga in talks with REAL MCs again. Compare this n!gga with Rihanna or Tinashe.

And ya'll n!ggas that been listening to hip hop for years, and respect the culture and it's history, need to stop co-signing that sh!t or hip hop as we know it and love is done.

its dead brehs.

its just dead.

 

[charmander]

Breh, Superb actually went on a campaign to drum up interest in his story. Ok cool. We all waited for him to produce proof of what he was saying. He never did. He just cut WWE style promos talking about he was gonna show the world....then faded into obscurity. So the stuff you're pointing out ain't unknown....it's just that a claim was made, and never proven.

Wu-Tang been giving each other lines since day 1. Ghost got the first couple bars from "Cherchez LaGhost" from Meth, for example. That's never been a secret.

Drake got an entire reference track out there. So right off the bat we're talking about apples and oranges.

As far as Dirty, dude was never considered the GOAT by his fans. Nor put in any serious rap discussions as "that dude". He was one of the lesser members of Wu.

Drake is supposedly that dude. He's not the 5th or 6th dopest guy in his crew. He is the star of OVO.


The song Meth wrote is nothing like Ghost's. Both tracks have been on the 'net for a good 10ish years. You can compare them right now if you want.

Fred.

drake's 10 bands sounds nothing like that quentin kid's version either

we can't be mad at drake having reference tracks and people helping him in the studio, but give other rappers passes for having reference tracks and a studio full of people giving them lines and verses and telling them how to arrange them

 

[Billy Ocean]

if we drawing a line in the sand on ghostwriting not being hip-hop, we can't make exceptions just because they legends

ghost spit an entire meth verse verbatim on cherchez le ghost, that's confirmed fact

who knows what else he had help with...but where there's smoke there's fire

How is that confirmed fact? Again, you trying too hard. Provide me with tangibles. Gtfoh with that smoke there's fire sh!t.

 

[Billy Ocean]

drake's 10 bands sounds nothing like that quentin kid's version either

More reason why this n!gga need to gtfoh

 

[Pop123]

"Drake fans a.k.a. B!tch n!ggas"



Hahahhaahahahahaahahahahahhaaahaaa, made me laugh out loud

 

[ISO]

More reason why this n!gga need to gtfoh

QM's verse is dead ass like 6 lines and the hook. Drake changed a line in the verse and the hook and then there's two more verses and an outro. Miller's entire second verse was scrapped.

 

[Rusty Kuntz]

There's something behind that. Not even on some conspiracy theory shyt. There has to be something there. It's unheard of. That's deeper than music. Those Jewish connects gotta be real, or he's just someone who they want to remain the face of a black genre.

Think about it, you didn't see ONE negative article about him at all during this whole shyt. Not one. Not one journalist took the chance to slander him. Every Hip Hop station, website, everyone flat out

I've never seen some shyt like that. I've never seen the industry or better yet a group of different industries cape in unison for someone like that. Ever.

Dude really was a plant the whole time. It's the only thing that makes sense. From his rapid ascension, to their refusal to let him fall. He's a plant.

He was a child/teen actor on fukking Degrassi... the fact that anyone took him seriously as a rapper in the first place is an L of epic proportions
I've always thought this whole time that the dude was just doing a severe case of method acting.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was like "I'm gonna pretend to be a rapper and see how far I go"

 

[Rapmastermind]

When White Canadian Politicans join into a Rap Beef, you know what time it is. Remember White American Politicans HATED Hip Hop and have fought it tooth and nail.