Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

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You do realize Goku thought Gohan was able to defeat Cell, right? And he was right. Once Gohan started toying with Cell in ssj2, he told Gohan to finish the fight.
Oh sure, give a guy who wants to destroy the planet a senzu bean to regain full strength just because you "thought" your son who never was much of a fighter let alone a killer could handle it. There was no guarantee and it almost didn't happen nor did everything go as planned. He juggled the planet's safety on his obsession with fighting.
 

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Oh sure, give a guy who wants to destroy the planet a senzu bean to regain full strength just because you "thought" your son who never was much of a fighter let alone a killer could handle it. There was no guarantee and it almost didn't happen nor did everything go as planned. He juggled the planet's safety on his obsession with fighting.

What exactly is your fukking point? Even when Picollo said Goku was wrong about Gohan, Goku was ready to step back in and takeover the fight. And Vegeta did the same thing against Cell when he let him absorb 18... nobody is calling Vegeta an idiot. Still, these bad decisions aren't what we are talking about when we say Goku is being written like he's mentally retarded. He freaking forgot that Gohan was his son for peaks sake. That's just one example in one episode of Goku showing a level of stupidity he didn't show in Z.
 

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What exactly is your fukking point? Even when Picollo said Goku was wrong about Gohan, Goku was ready to step back in and takeover the fight. And Vegeta did the same thing against Cell when he let him absorb 18... nobody is calling Vegeta an idiot. Still, these bad decisions aren't what we are talking about when we say Goku is being written like he's mentally retarded. He freaking forgot that Gohan was his son for peaks sake. That's just one example in one episode of Goku showing a level of stupidity he didn't show in Z.
The point is you just tried to make an excuse for his idiocy.
 

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Exactly. Before it was just random people at stake. Then planets. No problem, wish them back. Now it takes literal gods years to find the Super Dragonballs to make anything happen and even then you might get your ass erased at anytime. But the common denominator(Goku's dumbass) hasn't changed one bit.

Not only that but yall gotta think, Goku is more powerful than he's ever been. He's seen it all. Someone says they're going to destroy Earth and he's like :leostare::youngsabo:. His arrogance might be just as high as Vegeta's.

I have a theory that in Super, Vegeta arrogance is almost non existent and even :whoa: and :sadcam: when fighting Gods, but Goku is like :scheme: when a powerful being threatens entire timelines and universes. Almost as if they switched places from Z.
 

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Exactly. Before it was just random people at stake. Then planets. No problem, wish them back. Now it takes literal gods years to find the Super Dragonballs to make anything happen and even then you might get your ass erased at anytime. But the common denominator(Goku's dumbass) hasn't changed one bit.

Not only that but yall gotta think, Goku is more powerful than he's ever been. He's seen it all. Someone says they're going to destroy Earth and he's like :leostare::youngsabo:. His arrogance might be just as high as Vegeta's.

nikkas told him that all the universes would be erased if he loses and nikka was like
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Goku does play ALOT of games doing that stupid foolish shyt... :patrice: But vegeta has done stupid shyt to placate his ego too...

But now vegeta has matured and Goku has regressed... it's like he hasnt truly grown up or learned to act his age or maybe he's self aware that death isnt that big of a deal... :yeshrug:
 

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People have got to stop saying Goku was this stupid in Z. Stop it.. it's not true at all. They have turned Goku into a complete idiot. Goku was a fool in dragon ball, but in Z he was a muture adult. The shyt he did against cell was only because he wanted a fair one between cell and gohan. All through out Z, Goku showed little to no signs of the moron he is in super. You have long time fans like who the hell is writing this. It's like they are trying to out do Naruto.
Herein lies a conflict amongst a lot of people who watch Super from Z. A lot of people, especially those that didn't really fukk with Dragonball, haven't acclimated to the tone

Goku was never this dumb in Z but he was definitely this dumb in Dragonball. Super is shaping up to be more Db than Z so that's the Goku we got bruh :yeshrug:people acting like its this huge character assassination prob didn't watch Dragonball in the first place
 
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Goku does play ALOT of games doing that stupid foolish shyt... :patrice: But vegeta has done stupid shyt to placate his ego too...

But now vegeta has matured and Goku has regressed... it's like he hasnt truly grown up or learned to act his age or maybe he's self aware that death isnt that big of a deal... :yeshrug:
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Goku does play ALOT of games doing that stupid foolish shyt... :patrice: But vegeta has done stupid shyt to placate his ego too...

But now vegeta has matured and Goku has regressed... it's like he hasnt truly grown up or learned to act his age or maybe he's self aware that death isnt that big of a deal... :yeshrug:
He's gonna fukk around and become nihilistic like owlman if fighting stops giving him joy
 
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