Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

[Wiles]

Wouldn't explain why he looks like Goku tho.

I'm leaning toward black being some kind of god that heard about how powerful Goku was during his life and decided to steal his body after he died.

This

 

[The Villain]

well Gohan's a lost cause but ChiChi need to fall back and let Goten be great.

 

[woof]

nikka shut the fukk up and grasp these nuts(that goes for every nikka that dapped his shytty post too). That shyt was retarded, don't try to spin or explain it. We just seen copy Vegeta spank ssj3 Gotenks in his BASE form 2-3 episodes ago. The shyt is inconsistent.. If this was the beginning of the series and Goku and trunks had that little session, that would be cool. But we're at the point where Goku's transformed levels are many times stronger than and average ssj1 or ssj2.

How can a ssj2 Trunks push Goku back while he's in his base form, let alone ssj2. shyt makes no sense whatsoever. It's like we have middle school kids writing this stuff.

No one needs to spin shyt. They just need to not be an obtuse moron.

The transformations were about what Trunks knows and where he's at, in order to gauge Black as an opponent. If you can't get that, even with a good sub, then maybe Shonen is too much for you and you need to kick back to Kodomo.

 

[Zebruh]

Clearly I understand that more than a majority of the tap dancing nikkas in this thread.




I know how strong Goku is, that sparring scene was absurd and insulting to anybody with half a brain. They are literally making mistakes every week and you tap dancing nigaas just eat it up.

I think anybody with half a brain realized that was Goku going on a recon mission. Notice he's purposefully defensive the entire time until he decides to just end the sesh.

Feel like if Goku was actually fighting back and giving Trunks hands and he was keeping up, the complaint is 100% sound.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

He isn't gauging trunks he's trying to gauge black through trunks

Maybe your annoying ass should have waited for the subs, since you don't actually know what you're talking about. The people that actually know Japanese and the translators said that's exactly why Goku did it.

Are you guys fukking retarded?

The point is, Goku shouldn't have to transform to gauge Black's strength through Trunks because Goku's base form is many times stronger than Trunk's bum ass SSJ 2 transformation. Even in the episode Trunks states states he had a "difficult" fight with Deborah. Base Goku would 1 shot Deborah.

SSJ3 can only be achieved by training non-stop in the Other World. You dont need sleep nor eat and have no limitations while dead. If Goku doesnt die, Goku never becomes SSJ3.

Show me where it says this is stated anywhere in the anime or manga.

No one needs to spin shyt. They just need to not be an obtuse moron.

The transformations were about what Trunks knows and where he's at, in order to gauge Black as an opponent. If you can't get that, even with a good sub, then maybe Shonen is too much for you and you need to kick back to Kodomo.

Are you guys fukking retarded?

The point is, Goku shouldn't have to transform to gauge Black's strength through Trunks because Goku's base form is many times stronger than Trunk's bum ass SSJ 2 transformation. Even in the episode Trunks states states he had a "difficult" fight with Deborah.

Super did it wrong(again), yet we still have the same tap dancing ass nikkas making excuses for this inconsistent ass series.

What should've happened:
1.Trunks powers up to his bum ass ssj2 transformation.
2. Trunks asks Goku isn't he going to transform? Goku says he doesn't have to.
3.Base Goku proceeds to outclass Trunks and explain that there are even higher forms than ssj2.
4. Trunks gauges where Goku's strength is compared to black.

The end.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

I think anybody with half a brain realized that was Goku going on a recon mission. Notice he's purposefully defensive the entire time until he decides to just end the sesh.

Feel like if Goku was actually fighting back and giving Trunks hands and he was keeping up, the complaint is 100% sound.

He shouldn't have had to transform to do that tho. He tests Hit in his base form, but has to power up to test ssj2 Trunks.

 

[Neil Tyson]

It's a cotdamn cartoon.

 

[Turk]

SSJ3 can only be achieved by training non-stop in the Other World. You dont need sleep nor eat and have no limitations while dead. If Goku doesnt die, Goku never becomes SSJ3.

That's not true because Gotenks achieved it easily and Trunks and Goten individually couldn't even go SSJ2

 

[FunkDoc1112]

SSJ3 can only be achieved by training non-stop in the Other World. You dont need sleep nor eat and have no limitations while dead. If Goku doesnt die, Goku never becomes SSJ3.

Exactly. Goku said that shyt himself. Whenever he tried to do SSJ3 in his living body his stamina would burnout quickly. That's why he lost damn near all of his energy fighting Kid Buu and had to resort to the Spirit Bomb.

 

[twan83]

The manga to super just made the ssg red version a separate power up
Read this shyt Brehs

at the God of all gods talking like he black


Dragon Ball Super 013 - Manga Stream


As far as the ep goes it was interesting how trunks said kaioshin helped him beat dabura



Also base goku would of beaten ssj2 trunks but the writing is so damn inconsistent

Cuz frieza final form which is stronger than before got that work from goku and frieza first form ko Gohan regardless him being out of shape he was ssj

As far as that ssj3 shyt goes it was stated long ago he achieved it quicker cuz he was dead being dead makes time go by slower on earth but faster in the other world remember beginning of Dbz when he died he trained longer than normal but on earth time it wasn't as long

As far ssj3 living it does take a massive toll cuz of him being alive that he has to train his body to get use too it

Ssb wouldn't work cuz u can't sense God ki at all

This goku black is goku but a diff version he has instant transmission too and the stance of his kamahamaha also
Question is could he be a God of destruction
Could it be a goku that just is evil version
Did a Kai train him also

 

[Neil Tyson]

Akira gawd gave us a nikka Goku

 

[Kitsune]

episode was decent, only thing is they need to find a new gimmick for the cat and his keeper, the food thing is being ran into the ground real fast. They also need to make another special with Trunks fighting off Dabura and Babidi in his timeline, would like for them to expand on that, that little flashback wasn't shyt

 

[ORDER_66]

You mean in Trunks' timeline?

Because she couldn't. Piccolo is dead in that timeline, so there are no Dragonballs to wish anybody back.

Why didnt future trunks ever go to future namek???? and or contact king kai???

 

[King Koopa]

U have to have a TON of energy to get to SSJ3. Which is why Goku was able to achieve it when he was dead and with unlimited energy, and Gotenks thru fusion. SSJ2 is pretty much the limit for Saiyans in normal situations. That said, it's not a stretch that Saiyans can get almost as strong when they're still in SSJ2 form. They just can't transform into SSJ3.

Goku wasn't able to touch Beerus really while in SSJ3 when they first fought, yet Vegeta was able to SSJ2 when he had that sudden best of power that one moment.

Still tho, it's just a cartoon

 

[Chris Cool]

Super future out here putting ends to buu before he begins.

See a lot of goku stans trying to hop on the super future bandwagon, too late for that. Yaw chose yaw son.