Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

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That didn't happen in anime which is what I'm going off of. The manga is no longer the default canon how it was in the old days.
 

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That didn't happen in anime which is what I'm going off of. The manga is no longer the default canon how it was in the old days.
If you haven't kept up with both then don't try to speak like an authority on the subject. Now that we've clearly established that Jiren was never beaten by Goku in the manga, you can go back to making ridiculous stretches to try and justify a W in the anime.
 

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If you haven't kept up with both then don't try to speak like an authority on the subject. Now that we've clearly established that Jiren was never beaten by Goku in the manga, you can go back to making ridiculous stretches to try and justify a W in the anime.
First off most people don't even talk about the manga until after the tournament of power. Hell this thread if proof of that. Secondly like I said in the ANIME Goku kicked Jiren's ass. So you need to stop talking like that's not the case.
 

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First off most people don't even talk about the manga until after the tournament of power. Hell this thread if proof of that. Secondly like I said in the ANIME Goku kicked Jiren's ass. So you need to stop talking like that's not the case.
It's not like I expected you to accept your L and keep it pushing, stupid mfs never do so it's all good. Like I said in my last post, by all means keep stretching trying to find a way to justify your shytty argument. Won't change the fact that even in the anime Goku failed on his own and it took him, Frieza, and 17 to eliminate him. Feel free to continue to Juelz your way out of it but don't bother @-ing me.

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It's not like I expected you to accept your L and keep it pushing, stupid mfs never do so it's all good. Like I said in my last post, by all means keep stretching trying to find a way to justify your shytty argument. Won't change the fact that even in the anime Goku failed on his own and it took him, Frieza, and 17 to eliminate him. Feel free to continue to Juelz your way out of it but don't bother @-ing me.

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nikka please, you had to bring up the manga because you was getting cooked. You knew damn well Jiren got waxed in the anime. Ain't no L on my end since I was talking about the more popular Goku vs Jiren fight. fukk outta here.
 

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If you didn't have anything to add, just say that breh. :deadrose:

It's just a fact that Goku wasn't able to get the W on his own in this rare instance. When even Spud can see it, y'all got to fall back.
No, I don't have anything to add to your dumb assessment. We will just agree to disagree
 

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You are now applying head canon.

Goku was beating Jiren but he couldn't last the fight. He needed freiza to help...He cannot beat Jiren solo.

If you THINK he can now that's in your head...you have no examples to show this.
He did beat jiren solo, jiren told him to finish him and everything

 

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Ultra instinct fukked up his body. He had jiren coppin pleas
He couldn't maintain the form, so he lost. That's what he's pointing out and for some reason, y'all refuse to connect the dots.

Goku has a history of using techniques with high risk factors that bite him in the ass. Most notably when he first learned Kaioken, used it against Vegeta because he was weaker. Went beyond what King Kai told him, completely wrecked his body and ended up an invalid the rest of the fight. Ironically, they had to jump that mf too to get the W.

I don't know why this is so difficult. :mjlol:
 

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He couldn't maintain the form, so he lost. That's what he's pointing out and for some reason, y'all refuse to connect the dots.

Goku has a history of using techniques with high risk factors that bite him in the ass. Most notably when he first learned Kaioken, used it against Vegeta because he was weaker. Went beyond what King Kai told him, completely wrecked his body and ended up an invalid the rest of the fight. Ironically, they had to jump that mf too to get the W.

I don't know why this is so difficult. :mjlol:

Whoa whoa whoa.

Goku beat Vegeta. Vegeta had to use his monkey form to contend.
 

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Whoa whoa whoa.

Goku beat Vegeta. Vegeta had to use his monkey form to contend.
Breh, no he didn't. The Oozaru form is apart of his natural abilities, you can't just ignore a whole transformation. He overdid KK, body gave out, and he was getting tortured by Vegeta.
 

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Goku had Jiren on his back. Jiren could not beat Goku when both fought at Max power. Conversation over.

MUI Goku > Jiren.

Cry about it some more GOATKU haters :mjlol:
 
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