Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga
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Yea there was an interview about it recently
Totaro writes the manga with hands on supervision from Toriyama
The manga is more fleshed out with none of the rushing that the show obviously has
I learned more about Jiren in 3 pages of the manga than I did in 10+ episodes of the show
Redguard
Hoonding
Where can I get a hold of the manga?
Another fun fact is that Toyotaro is actually a pen name for "Toyble" who was the original creator of Dragon Ball AF (one of them, it's a long story). That is why Dragon Ball Super uses plots and concepts found in the original Dragon Ball AF (7 Saiyans needed to share their power to help Goku, a Supreme Kai and a Goku clone go on a rampage, etc.) and the Super manga even takes panels from the AF manga at points.
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
nikka, I literally just posted a quote of Toriyama saying HIMSELF that he decided that Gohan wasn't fit for the role. He's never said shyt about the fans complaining. He said that he typically never listens to fan requests - in fact, when he got a lot of mail from fans asking him about a certain plot point, he'd do the opposite to throw off their expectations. One of the few times he actually caved into fans was keeping Vegeta alive after the Saiyan saga. But even then, he said he doesn't like Vegeta very much, he just finds him useful for the plot.This aint true tho
Toryiama tried multiple times to make Gohan the start of the show but the fans wouldn't let him
Goku death after Cell saga was supposed to be permanent. Hell the show was supposed to END after Frieza
Toryiama is definitely lazy but not in the way you're describing. He tried to switch it up and the fans said nikka fukk you we want Goku
As much as some of us hate how one dimensional the show is, a good amount of people eat this shyt up bruh
Watch some of these YouTube reactions. All nikkas really want to see is Goku
They're not ass pulling new forms and plot devices for Goku for no reason
I'm 100% convinced that Toryiama actually hates Goku and is just saying fukk it might as well get this free money
Toriyama's said that his favorite characters are Goku and Piccolo. At the end of the day, the story centers around Goku and his journey, and without him, there is no Dragon Ball.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
FunkDoc1112
Heavily Armed
...wut. Never mind that the Battle of Gods plot precedes Super by 3 years, but Toriyama is the one who outlines the plots and likely doesn't know shyt about some fan manga. Both Toyble and Toei are working off the same outline.
The Super Manga is just another take on Toriyama's story. The basic details of the plot are still his.
You don't know that. How do you know that when they first met, Toyble never put Toriyama onto AF? "How did you get this job?" "I've been making a fan-manga to your series for years. I draw exactly like you."
Toriyama clearly has a lot of respect for Toyotaro and the references to AF in Super are undeniable.
Yeah, the manga has a totally different vibe from the jump.
Jiren running over nikkas from the start.
Goku pimp slapping 75% of the Pride Troopers for fun to get Jiren's attention.
Vegeta doing God's work with a no look double elimination off the rip, including that bootleg Power Ranger nikka.
17 straight dusting nikkas from the whistle getting the 1st Elimination of the Tournament.
Jiren running over nikkas from the start.
Goku pimp slapping 75% of the Pride Troopers for fun to get Jiren's attention.
Vegeta doing God's work with a no look double elimination off the rip, including that bootleg Power Ranger nikka.
17 straight dusting nikkas from the whistle getting the 1st Elimination of the Tournament.
Crayola Coyote
Superstar
I see where you're coming from, I was wrong. I went and looked back and Goku was supposed to be a different more original character as well. In the context of Goku being the same shytty 1D character as he is now, letting him be the main protagonist of the Cell Saga would've been atrocious for this series.
The biggest fukking issue in all of this is Akira saying a character HE designed wasnt suitable for a role. All he had to do was make Gohan evolve into more than academicsAkira couldve made Super fire as fukk if he just designed Gohan to be a replacement, but he rather have been lazy and kept reviving Goku repeatedly
THIS! No character development in DBZ. Super everyone getting their shine buts its too late. Bleach/One piece made sure everyone got their shine so they didn't come off useless
Redguard
Hoonding
If he likes Piccolo so much why won't he give him a power boost to be competitive?
The Prince of All Saiyans
Formerly Jisoo Stan & @Twitter
I don't want this series to end 
