The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Yo anyone got Jiren's shocked face when goku goes ultra instinct? 
Nani?
Nani?
Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga
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I get it now so jiren powered up completely around ep 127 since then he probably hasn’t used it but has access to his full power easily, so he doesn’t have to power up like he did before he can just do it on a wim.
Cuz him facing goku in 129 he looks to overwhelm him still when that version of UI is strongest until he knocks him out of it too the mastered one.
Then we see jiren use complete access of it cuz mastered is too strong for him not too and I’m assuming it’s gonna end up a draw but frieza be the tie breaker basically is one scenario.
Or jiren is slightly stronger but time runs out uni 7 wins with more fighters
Or double ko frieza wins
Cuz him facing goku in 129 he looks to overwhelm him still when that version of UI is strongest until he knocks him out of it too the mastered one.
Then we see jiren use complete access of it cuz mastered is too strong for him not too and I’m assuming it’s gonna end up a draw but frieza be the tie breaker basically is one scenario.
Or jiren is slightly stronger but time runs out uni 7 wins with more fighters
Or double ko frieza wins
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Mastered UI Goku
Frieza's knocked out body floating on a rock somewhere
Mastered UI Goku
Frieza's knocked out body floating on a rock somewhere
basically, that's what i'm saying/thinking too....unlike others that uni 7 has faced, jiren is only using enough power to better the opponent....that's why it's surprising them every time he bests someone, cause they used to people going all out from the get go....i think the earliest we'll see his max power is the last episode...that's when he'll have to go all out to beat goku, but we'll only get it for a few secs/mins.....we wont really get to see it until the show comes back...
The question is master form same level, stronger or slightly weaker
If they smart they have it weaker so they can continue the series because if it’s stronger. Who the hell else he gonna fight besides angels, grand priest and maybe god destructions that are on beerus level which don’t make sense unless it’s that divine war theory going around that started weeks ago with goku and jiren and other fighters going against them mortals against gods (maybe some gods or angels side with them).
Otherwise idk how a sequel works unless using diff characters as main people ( jiren parent killer could be another villain for goku that maybe on angel level who knows)
The question is master form same level, stronger or slightly weaker
If they smart they have it weaker so they can continue the series because if it’s stronger. Who the hell else he gonna fight besides angels, grand priest and maybe god destructions that are on beerus level which don’t make sense unless it’s that divine war theory going around that started weeks ago with goku and jiren and other fighters going against them mortals against gods (maybe some gods or angels side with them).
Otherwise idk how a sequel works unless using diff characters as main people ( jiren parent killer could be another villain for goku that maybe on angel level who knows)
i think it'll be the same level power wise, it'll just have the offense now...so his attacks will have more impact now, instead of being weaker cause he was thinking....which is gonna make jiren have to go up another level cause them shyts gonna hurt/do damage to him now....
think when it comes back, goku will still be chasing jiren power wise...he'll bug the shyt outta him to get him to train/fight with him....then we'll finally get to see jiren's parent killer, and goku & the squad will help him beat it....think the parent killer is gonna be angel level or just an angel period, which is gonna cause the battle between the angels/gp vs the fighters from the universes....
Yo im dying at the jiren saying no usual transformation lines
Sacrificing life for you weaklings
that shyt was funny...it showed him having respect for vegeta/goku though...say that cause it was like he said 'since you cant power up, i wont neither, but you gonna catch these hands' lol....especially that ass whupping he gave goku....you could tell that was him releasing his frustration from them staying around/bugging the shyt outta him lol...
i disagree....he's shown respect for goku plenty of times, but they've shown ultimately, that respect is overshadowed by the fact he doesnt get why people keep having faith in goku when he's shown he's the stronger fighter....at this point, to him the only thing that matters is strength....that's why he scuffs at pride, faith, etc.....he thinks strength beats all that...that's where his back story comes in...
Goku wins by spirit bomb?
Jiren Toguro vs Goku Urameshi next week 
. Really disappointed how rushed the last half of this arc is. Reall thinking about what happened with Android 17 should've happened to Hit instead. I think should've come down to Hit and that big bot monster from U6 as one of the final fighters. This straight on U7 vs U11 final has been 
honestly. Shame Super really has been a series with good ideas and concepts, but never really able to fully execute those ideas properly.
. Really disappointed how rushed the last half of this arc is. Reall thinking about what happened with Android 17 should've happened to Hit instead. I think should've come down to Hit and that big bot monster from U6 as one of the final fighters. This straight on U7 vs U11 final has been honestly. Shame Super really has been a series with good ideas and concepts, but never really able to fully execute those ideas properly.
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Goku still has a certain contract on himThe question is master form same level, stronger or slightly weaker
If they smart they have it weaker so they can continue the series because if it’s stronger. Who the hell else he gonna fight besides angels, grand priest and maybe god destructions that are on beerus level which don’t make sense unless it’s that divine war theory going around that started weeks ago with goku and jiren and other fighters going against them mortals against gods (maybe some gods or angels side with them).
Otherwise idk how a sequel works unless using diff characters as main people ( jiren parent killer could be another villain for goku that maybe on angel level who knows)
