Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga
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I know Vegeta was laying there hearing that story like "Oh you mad cause you lost your PARENTS nikka????Nikka my WHOLE RACE DEAD
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"The nikka that KILLED MY RACE IS ON MY TEAM NIKKA
If I'm Vegeta I'm stopping everything cause nikkas bout to HEAR my struggle since it's story time in this bytch
"I was born a Saiyan boy, on the planet that was my father's namesake. I would soon become aware of the slavery I was born into..."
Jiren wouldn't make it coming up in U7 bruh.
Ain't no pride troopers round here you bytch ass nikka
Goku mastering UI makes sense with how he fights , not going all out from the beginning and fighting for fightings sake . He's an instinctive fighter and one of the strongest everyall nikkas alway look at shyt surface level and don't look at shyt so fukking closed minded. Its like yall just ignore Goku's character and his history
Why doesn't it make since? Because they written Jiren to be so fukking OP? You're problem is you're power scaling and throwing out the context and clues to how Goku was gonna beat Jiren from the begining. I don't need to explain to you the genius of Goku and his fighting instinct. I don't need to explain to the flaw in Jiren being over confident. It's the formula for all of Goku's opponents. The fight Goku and toy with him, drunk in their over confidence. Jiren may be powerful and guy that believes in justice but he's also a selfish and arrogant prick. (He's basically Superman)Goku gonna humble his ass, and when Goku wishes them back or Zeno just simply brings them after Goku teaches Zeno the moral lesson of this fukking arc that all you fans are ignoring, Goku can give Jiren his wish and Jiren gives him the upmost respect. This is Goku's character, he's changes people. Yall don't know Goku, or Yall just simply ignore the history his character. Almost all of Goku's friends and allies were and one point adversaries. From Yamcha, Tien, to Piccolo and yes, Vegeta. And now Beerus, Beerus has obviously grown fond of Goku and has gain respect for him. Want proof? watch episode 109 and 110 when Beerus thought Goku was gone. It wasn't no "Oh no, we the universe is finished now that Goku is gone..." It was "Is this really the end of you Goku?
" Like Beerus was legit concern for Goku. And that is just Goku's character he changes people.
See yall taking this UI shyt for granted. Yes some GoDs haven't mastered it yet but that mean shyt. Maybe they don't fukking need UI. And Beerus? Beerus hasn't trained in years, he's been sleeping and not giving a fukk only to wake up and start destroying shyt. Goku been training with Whis and Whis hinted at Goku and Vegeta getting UI and he even told them how. Beerus could probably get UI if he wanted. Hell we don't even know the full extent of Beerus's power.
Once again yall ignore the history of Goku and his battles. Almost all his battles Goku get sonned to the point we it makes him stronger or in the DBZ cases, transform and ascend past his current to gain the strength to beat his opponent. Its right there in the storySo to say it doesn't makes sense means Dragonball hasn't made sense to begin with. So in that case, what are you complaining for if you still watching it?
why not? Have all the power you want but if you can't touch Goku and get off an attack to considering damage him then wtf can do. We don't know how Goku would win or beat Jiren but theres no doubt in the mind that it would make sense. Again you're ignoring the context and the history of the show and it's plot devices.
Well when you have Jiren who's a biggest asspull of the tournament it is what it is.
For the record I don't think Goku is gonna just outright beat him. Goku is gonna outsmart him and use Jiren's strength against. Or simply put this shyt will end a tie.
Either way, rather Goku wins or jiren, or tie. Universes are getting brought back point blank. Goku won't just go live on with all those billions of lives being gone. That's not Goku's character at all.
As for Jiren we learned that Jiren doesnt want to be responsible for the erasure of any universe. So if he wins, they're getting brought back regardless
it's inevitable at this point
For all of you arguing about Jiren not being a super alien to have such strength it's common sense; teachers get surpassed by their students.
His master was like Gouken and he surpassed him eventually. He's basically Akuma and his goal is the satsui no hadou (village destroyer). Then he got Belmod as a teacher...
Kakarot surpassed all of his teachers, Vegeta did the same with Nappa, Godhan - Piccolo.
Really don't see the problem here.
His master was like Gouken and he surpassed him eventually. He's basically Akuma and his goal is the satsui no hadou (village destroyer). Then he got Belmod as a teacher...
Kakarot surpassed all of his teachers, Vegeta did the same with Nappa, Godhan - Piccolo.
Really don't see the problem here.
O.iatlhawksfan
Devoted Joel Embiid hater
I liked Jiren's backstory. I still think he's a prodigy, just certain events happen for him to trigger that crazy power
ALTRUISM
"My enemy is a notion, not a nation."
What would be some real fukkery for continuity sake is if the Jiren's evil doer was really Goku Black as their shadowy figures look alike. 
But on the real, the whole story doesn't feel right. Something's off. Either Belmod or an Angel had to be the evil doer. It was never said if Jiren eventually defeated the being or not
But on the real, the whole story doesn't feel right. Something's off. Either Belmod or an Angel had to be the evil doer. It was never said if Jiren eventually defeated the being or not
Jiren getting cocky might be his downfall. He's chatting a lot more than usual.
Impudent gnats
Oh oh, he mad
Frieza always offside trying to sneak back onto the field. All in the game plan :coachdraper:
Baby Jiren
Trust is worthless.Strength is justice. Strength is absolute. 
Winning would get his companions and him everything he wants. 
Using the Justice Warriors for your own ends.
Obsessed with the past I see.:beyonce:
"I kind of like how human that is."
Impudent gnats
Oh oh, he mad
Frieza always offside trying to sneak back onto the field. All in the game plan :coachdraper:
Baby Jiren
Trust is worthless.
Strength is justice. Strength is absolute. Winning would get his companions and him everything he wants. Using the Justice Warriors for your own ends.
Obsessed with the past I see.:beyonce:"I kind of like how human that is."
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I'm telling you now brehs it's all connected...
The way the grand priest looked dead at goku and one of them smiling on the bench, plus we know some person incredibly strong killed Jiren's parents and STILL haven't heard jiren's wish... plus we know there was more than just the 12 universes...My theory is either the grand priest was the demon who killed jiren's family or he knows who did it.... there's a bigger conspiracy here...
I'm legit loving how they have Frieza pop up, have a dope line, catch HELLACIOUS beats by JiDre, & then literally getting stashed off panel.
Jiren gives that man no time, nikka already dead so y'all can't DQ me when I snatch his soul
Frieza the new Brooklyn Brawler.
Jiren gives that man no time, nikka already dead so y'all can't DQ me when I snatch his soul
Frieza the new Brooklyn Brawler.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Jiren: "That's enough outta you, Belmod." 
Batsute
The Lion Choker
I'm telling you now brehs it's all connected...
My theory is either the grand priest was the demon who killed jiren's family or he knows who did it.... there's a bigger conspiracy here...
No, Super is stupid as fukk but no way are the writers gonna ass pull a twist like that outta no where. No exposition, or any reason for the Daishinkon to stage a coup. Better or worse, Freiza, Zamasu, Beerus, and fukk EVEN Gohan all had some type of development to explain their motives or power ups.
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
telling the truth
pretty colors and animation don't sweep nonsensical plot holes under the rug
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Belmod giving Jiren's backstory
Jiren is fukking ridiculous
Whole episode was pretty bad imo, 17's sacrifice made it worthwhile but this fight with Jiren is just too much, I honestly couldn't care less about his back story at this point, specially because it was rushed as fukk and didn't explain anything either
Let's just get the asspull W for U7 quick, I'm more interested in the aftermath and ending to this saga and series.
Would be hilarious if Goku and Jiren eliminate each other and while everyone looks shocked, we hear "WOO HOOOO HOOOO HOOOO
I think that's the best direction to go in for the ending, especially if they want to leave it open for a new season at some point. I'm thinking -
-Jiren eliminates Vegeta next episode
-Frieza is still unconscious
-Goku goes UI and fights it out with Jiren, and right at the last second they eliminate each other, leaving Frieza as the last person in the ring
-The series ends on a cliffhanger with Frieza (with a demonic look on his face) getting the Super Dragonballs, and about to make his wish, saying that now the gods will answer to him.
If they end like that I almost guarantee they'd do more episodes.
