Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

[Battle Beast]

Nobody can deny Vegeta’s character development. Goku development seems more regressive this series. Gohan development has also improved as he wants to get back to his fighting state. Piccolo needs to get some kind of god upgrade badly to keep him just under Goku/Vegeta. They did an incredible job with 17 he doesn’t have the raw power of Gohan/Frieza but his tactics makes him a superior fighter that punches far above his weight.

 

[Skip b]

Nobody can deny Vegeta’s character development. Goku development seems more regressive this series. Gohan development has also improved as he wants to get back to his fighting state. Piccolo needs to get some kind of god upgrade badly to keep him just under Goku/Vegeta. They did an incredible job with 17 he doesn’t have the raw power of Gohan/Frieza but his tactics makes him a superior fighter that punches far above his weight.

Neg


17 would beat the brakes off both; that boy stood tall to GoD Toppo without a worry a care while having fun out there

 

[Battle Beast]

Neg


17 would beat the brakes off both; that boy stood tall to GoD Toppo without a worry a care while having fun out there

Toppo was about to wash him before Frieza saved him.

 

[LordDeathwatch]

Neg


17 would beat the brakes off both; that boy stood tall to GoD Toppo without a worry a care while having fun out there

nikka he said raw power, which is accurate. 17 has been shining in this ToP because the rules suit his fighting style perfectly, he was literally created to work tactically as a duo/team. He's been MVP on that tip.

In a fight to the death 1 on 1 no rules, Frieza would wash him. Gohan...I don't know, I still can't trust that boy. :Ugh5150:

As far as getting saved, don't get dementia & shyt forgetting that 18 saved 17 from elimination waaaay earlier. Everybody has been caught slipping.

 

[Cuban Pete]

Neg


17 would beat the brakes off both; that boy stood tall to GoD Toppo without a worry a care while having fun out there

Chill cat daddy Golden Frieza at worst is numero 3 on everybody list the bull literally ate hakai from TWO different GoD and STILL in fighting conditions after it, we haven't seen his full power either

 

[Trapperman Dave]

So are Kale and Caulifla but you don't see them popping up on Vegeta's mind.

He didn’t interact with them like he did cabba plus caulifia came out the gate swinging so they more like goku’s students

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Ole Vegeta kicking ass taking names that was the real fight @Malik1time

 

[Prodigital]

Okay brehs, I've watched the Vegeta vs Toppo fight like 10 times so far and I noticed something

Vegeta for a second gets that same monster voice that Goku gets in UI for like a half second

(3:50)


We might see the king of all saiyans have another break through in this tournament

Will Jiren be the next contestant on that summer jam screen?

Edit: What's really good with that voice tho? What's happening to these dudes

 

[LordDeathwatch]

I'm still upset we didn't get to see Super 17, that robot Universe could have had some Androids.

There's your MVP

 

[Steezy]

Okay brehs, I've watched the Vegeta vs Toppo fight like 10 times so far and I noticed something

Vegeta for a second gets that same monster voice that Goku gets in UI for like a half second

(3:50)


We might see the king of all saiyans have another break through in this tournament

Will Jiren be the next contestant on that summer jam screen?

Edit: What's really good with that voice tho? What's happening to these dudes

Ssj4

 

[Rigby.]

Ult Gohan seems substantially stronger than he was during the Buu arc. I feel with his comparable intellect (presumably smarter) and likely stronger attacks, he’d barely beat 17

 

[Rigby.]

Chill cat daddy Golden Frieza at worst is numero 3 on everybody list the bull literally ate hakai from TWO different GoD and STILL in fighting conditions after it, we haven't seen his full power either

GF should be #3 but Gohan ate Frieza’s “hits” and assumed that if Frieza was really trying, he could’ve combated em. IDK how strong golden really is, or if it’s strong enough to say he’s concretely better than 17 and Gohan. I think he is, but the man got blitzed by Toppo several times while 17 ducked a few hits

 

[The Mad Titan]

Golden frieza was completely stronger than goku blue after training once in his life for a couple months. If not for being a scrub and going to attack before actually testing how long he can last in blue it would have been a wrap.

So if he’s been training “mentally” the whole time he has been in hell he is a problem.

To bad he took 2 death balls to the body being cocky

 

[Ty-Fife]

 

[Malik1time]

Ole Vegeta kicking ass taking names that was the real fight @Malik1time