Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

[Ironman]

I doubt he could. Beerus has yet to fight seriously, and I don't think Toppo was on equal footing with Beerus. I could be wrong, but I don't think Vegeta is at that level yet.

Nah Beerus still runs shyt and will serve Goku and Vegeta that fade don't be fooled

 

[Rell Lauren]

And another "Negged" one provided again by Jiren

Someone put fukk outta here on this.

 

[A B O V E]

Nope

Ultra SSB in the manga is way weaker than what we just saw right now breh

Base form Toppo went toe to toe with ultra SSB Goku in the manga

 

[A B O V E]

There two reasons why Toppo struggled against Vegeta; Number 1 low-level writing or Number 2 the tournament did not allow Toppo to go all the way because of his God of destruction power's could have easily killed Vegeta. Toppo in his god did not fight 100%. I'm leaning towards reason "Number 1"

Vegeta couldn't kill Toppo either so that holding back at every blow argument goes both ways

Why is it so hard to believe that this new form might have surpassed the gods when we have a character like Jiren who has surpassed the gods already?

In order for Universe 7 to win somebody (probably goku ) will have to even surpass Jiren.

 

[FLATOP]

Jiren acting totally different. Who made him like this?

"Feast your eyes on this!"

Is not something you'd think of him saying.

 

[42 Monks]

Jiren acting totally different. Who made him like this?

"Feast your eyes on this!"

Is not something you'd think of him saying.

Jiren been popping off. Now that Goku and Vegeta earned a little respect, they can get a whole sentence to go along with the fade.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Jiren acting totally different. Who made him like this?

"Feast your eyes on this!"

Is not something you'd think of him saying.

I have a feeling they're gonna get sloppy with the writing for the remainder of the series, and this episode was the start of it

 

[kingdarius]

Holy shyt the way jiren shyt on toppo RIGHT after he lost .....jiren vs 3 niccas tho ....got a feeling 17 just gonna chill somewhere no need for him to get into all that

EDIT: where tf frieza go

 

[dakidblu]

They gonna need vegito or gogeta cuz they aint beating him solo, 2 on 1, or 3 on 1 . It would make sense too since there's 5 mins left and the fusion wont last that long.

 

[Sterling Archer]

There two reasons why Toppo struggled against Vegeta; Number 1 low-level writing or Number 2 the tournament did not allow Toppo to go all the way because of his God of destruction power's could have easily killed Vegeta. Toppo in his god did not fight 100%. I'm leaning towards reason "Number 1"

He struggled against Vegeta because he was weaker. Vegeta was handling him without going all out in Blue form before. His Hakai powerup just wasn’t stronger than Vegetas Limit Breaker dark blue and he got faded. Both Goku and Frieza have tanked hakai power so to think that Vegeta who is now stronger than both of them at that time won’t is stupid. The exact same argument could be made that Vegeta held back on his Final Explosion to not kill Toppo or his friends. If anything we know that for a fact that Final Explosion is an autokill feat. Hakai has been tanked a couple of times already. It is not autokill. Vegeta held back more.

 

[CookisaCac]

17 ate toppos attacks like scooby snacks. Then got caught by a blast from Jiren, came out the rubble like

Freeza did not come out the rubble

Hes taking another nap

 

[42 Monks]

17 ate toppos attacks like scoobyScoo snacks. Then got caught by a blast from Jiren, came out the rubble like

Freeza did not come out the rubble

Hes taking another nap

Your boy 17 came through. I owe you an apology

We all do

 

[Big Boss]

Vegeta

 

[CookisaCac]

Vegeta beat a fresh GoD who couldn't kill/destroy. Chill, catch him in the streets

 

[dakidblu]

Vegeta did his thing