I wasn't saying if Fusion was cannon or not, I'm just tired of it being used as a solution to every other powerup battle
like if all this comes down to gogeta ultra instinct i'm gonna be
I get what ur saying but jiren is too damn strong for ultra instinct goku regardless of how good he gets use too it
And makes no damn sense if he masters it cuz if he does and beats him now we saying he god of destruction level or higher since jiren is
Take away fusion and go by whis statement in beginning series vegeta and goku together can possible beat beerus would work if they both use ultra instinct together against jiren would be most logical
Imo jiren shouldn’t even lose too that they made him too damn strong so they better follow thru in 2 ways
1. He flat out wins
2. Even tho u hate it fusion with ultra instinct but fusion actually gets a lot of damage but equal to jiren or slightly above then defuses and as he bought to eliminate them time runs out uni 7 wins
Either way they need to keep jiren around as the bar for goku and vegeta to surpass